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Traders Confirm: A Strange & Erratic Market

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yalanand
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Re: This is what happens when Govts interfere in the market.
yalanand   8/1/2011 5:29:12 AM
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Ashish,

  I dont think LInkedIn ever traded below its IPO price. LinkedIn’s shares fell in the weeks after the May IPO, but lately have roared back to the lofty plateau reached on the company’s first day of trading.

back2basicz
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Re: This is what happens when Govts interfere in the market.
back2basicz   8/1/2011 2:49:03 AM
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Anand,

If I remember correctly Eventually LInkedIn traded below its IPO price.I personally never believed much in the hype of IPOs.But for sure if there is a good deal on offer (like Dunkin) which was clearly priced below its fair value,then I would'nt mind taking a stab at an offering.

For this you need to be able to measure(& appreciate) value effectively (&objectively).Not everybody can do that easily.Its far more easy to be swept up the marketing tide of the Big Investment Banks and Underwriter banks who are promoting an IPO to bag their Big Bonuses.

Regards

Ashish.

yalanand
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Re: This is what happens when Govts interfere in the market.
yalanand   7/31/2011 5:05:42 PM
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As a fellow trader I can tell you honestly I have given up/lost interest in Day trading after looking at the level and extent of volatility in daily market moves.

@back2basicz,

 I totally agree with you. This is not a traders market, even i would say not a investors market too. I belive we can get the same stocks at lower price level in coming days. Looks like some IPO's are giving good returns to the investors like LinkedIn, Dunkun Donuts etc.

impactnow
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impactnow   7/26/2011 1:32:35 AM
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This type of market makes it all the more important to have a strategy and tolerance for risk. The market will continue to be volatile through the election period; there is no real end in sight to the debt issues, recession, and unemployment and energy issues. Hence the market is on shaky ground because out consumption based economy is on very shaky ground. Until we see a major move toward economic stability the markets will be spooked and erratic.

mInvestor
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Re: Wild Action today
mInvestor   7/24/2011 10:50:32 AM
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Thank Scott for another important summary of market. This is what happening now, and may keep like this for a while. We average investors shall be aware of this trend and do our investment accordingly.

On the other hand, does this assert the market is an efficient-market? That is, one cannot consistently achieve returns in excess of average market return, given the information publicly available at the time the investment is made. Well, is all information publicly available? Hard to say.

 

Street Smart
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We are Entering the Twilight Zone
Street Smart   7/22/2011 3:16:11 PM
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Scott, I think you have your ear to the ground just right, and that the market IS spooked by the flash crashes and the debt crashes.

But at the end of the day, I think what is REALLY spooking the traders is the realization that those are just the manifestations of the ALGORITHMS at work.  And those algorithms--built to be our money slaves--are more and more taking the reins and galloping free...

back2basicz
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This is what happens when Govts interfere in the market.
back2basicz   7/22/2011 2:53:34 PM
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Scott,

As a fellow trader I can tell you honestly I have given up/lost interest in Day trading after looking at the level and extent of volatility in daily market moves.

Its close to impossible to decide which direction to go in and with any degree of certainty.It also does'nt help that liquidity has fallen dramatically.

This is an Investors market(and not a traders one) if you ask me.

Maybe that is the all interfering Govts gameplan all along.Frustrate as many traders as possible thereby driving them out of the market so that the market dances to their tunes.Unfortunately by reducing Volume;Govts are only exarcebating the wildness of these moves and discouraging Price discovery.Not a Good sign.Not good at all....

Regards

Ashish.

Value Hiker
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Re: Wild Action today
Value Hiker   7/22/2011 1:16:39 PM
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Scott:

Your article is a perfect example about the unpredictability of short term market movement, even for the experts at Wall Street. Most investors shall relax if they listen to Graham's advice: Let the Mr. Market to serve you, not to guide you.

Scott Raynovich
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Wild Action today
Scott Raynovich   7/21/2011 2:25:18 PM
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Today is a great display of the wild action -- violent rally in stocks, violent sell-off in treasury bonds as money flows back into risk. However not all risk assets are benefitting because select commodities such as copper and cotton are getting crushed.

Good demonstration of lots of conflicting forces: China economic data came in weak overnight, pressuring many industrial commodities. Yet Euro and U.S. debt progress has lifted stocks and taken money out of treasuries.

This is an intresting dichotomy as the China trade is about economic weakness yet the stocks are displaying strength. Which side of the trade is correct?



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