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My Sunday With MF Global Claims Forms

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back2basicz
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Re: Why no real action?
back2basicz   2/16/2012 9:37:06 AM
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Scott,

You are not going to like this.Looks like Most MF Global clients are not going to get much of their money back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zVEZ-knlcA&feature=youtu.be

http://www.clearingandsettlement.com/2012/01/how-jp-morgan-and-george-soros-ended-up-with-mf-global-customer-money/

http://us1.irabankratings.com/pub/IRAMain.asp

Not a good sign;Not a good sign at all...

I thought this sums up the sentiments of what most Foriegn/Independent Financial Institutions are thinking today.

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Purely as a matter of due diligence, no fiduciary will ever again be able to use a US-based broker dealer as a custodian.  To do so would be reckless and would expose the fiduciary to claims of negligence in the event a loss similar to MF Global occurred. 

Until the Congress rectifies the current bankruptcy laws and allows trustees to claw back payments made to secured lenders and other counterparties, there is no reason for any rational personal to allow a broker dealer to hold securities in custody.  All of this business will go to the big banks, who will be just as happy to see the smaller dealers thrown into the meat grinder.

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Wonderful just what we need-The TBTF get bigger and bigger...Typical of the way DC and the whole lobbyist circus operates today.

Ashish.

Scott Raynovich
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Re: Why no real action?
Scott Raynovich   2/1/2012 3:29:12 PM
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The Washingtonians didn't notice... they were too busy conducting insider trades.

Seriously, I know I'm biased, but the response to this has been so disappointing. It's business as usual. They have no real interest in cleaning up the system.

Clearly, money was stolen out of customer accounts. It was against CME and CTFC rules, against any semblance of market integrity, and certainly not ethical. Yet the whole thing has been punted to a bunch of lawyers who can litigate it for years to prove it was "okay."

Dex
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Re: Why no real action?
Dex   2/1/2012 9:47:28 AM
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Good point @Noreen. Corzine wouldn't be in those street clothes today, as Scott mentions, if more of our illustrious elected officials had been on the losing end of this deal.

Noreen Seebacher
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Re: Why no real action?
Noreen Seebacher   2/1/2012 9:37:16 AM
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Perhaps none of those witch hunters in Washington lost any money at MF Global. If they had, what do you want to bet they'd be paying a lot more attention to the scam?

tokyogai
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Why no real action?
tokyogai   2/1/2012 9:03:58 AM
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I still can not understand why none of the witch hunters in Washington have gone after the management of MF Global. Maybe they are staying away from their frineds? Somebody deserves some jail time for this one.

Scott Raynovich
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Re: No fun
Scott Raynovich   1/31/2012 9:08:47 PM
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Nice catch on the customer segregation statement.

Scott Raynovich
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Re: No fun
Scott Raynovich   1/31/2012 9:08:06 PM
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dude, you don't know your Italian wines. Chianti Classico Riserva ain't that cheap -- though I got a good deal on mine. Drop in the bucket compared with MF Global disaster.

Rod Raynovich
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Re: No fun
Rod Raynovich   1/31/2012 7:35:44 PM
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Glad you had a cheap Chianti not waste your time with a great Cab on MFnG drivel.

Lookee lookee the MFnG "regulator" cannot even forecast snow right. Last forecast were on Oct 27 for snowy winter!!

http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/weather/online-marketing/weather-update-

Here is their CYA on customer segregation:

http://investor.cmegroup.com/investor-relations/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=624908




 

Street Smart
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No Good Deed Goes Unpunished
Street Smart   1/31/2012 4:39:12 PM
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There's really an irony here, which I'm sure has not escaped you, @Scott:  The clients of MF Global are in this mess largely because of colossally terrible recordkeeping on the part of the firm, yet YOU must keep complete and perfect records in order to have a chance at re-claiming a share of what is rightfully yours!

Not a single malt drinker, huh?  My Glenfiddich bottle would have been a dead soldier after I had finished that packet!

TelecomFreq
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Re: No fun
TelecomFreq   1/31/2012 3:13:08 PM
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Scott, at least its done. But what do you think your chances are of getting your money back?

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