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How Apple Dominates Everything

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Value Hiker
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DOJ is right about Apple's price fixing with ABA
Value Hiker   4/12/2012 3:25:02 PM
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Before Apple got into the ebook business. Amazon basically forced the ABA (American BookSeller Association) to drop the Agency Model, and lowed the price of both physical and electronic books for consumers.

When Apple revealed its iPad, Jobs knew he had no position on ebook sale. To break the dominance of Amazon, Jobs cut the deal with ABA and revived the Agency Model. The result is consumers got ripped off and ebooks are sold at higher price than physical book. 

For the battle between Apple and Amazon over ebook market, I strongly support Amazon.

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Re: DOJ is right about Apple's price fixing with ABA
Noreen Seebacher   4/12/2012 3:32:33 PM
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Amazing when you think of all the tentacles. isn't it? And equally amazing that this e-book suit is the first regulatory action against Apple, considering its grip on, well, everything.

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Re: DOJ is right about Apple's price fixing with ABA
Value Hiker   4/12/2012 3:40:47 PM
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I have no problem on the Apple's dominance on many fields - as long as it benefits the consumers. One example is the Apples' dominance over music downloading business. Apple forces the music industry to lower its price to a very reasonable level. Now everyone is happy, Apple makes decent profits, Media companies sell more songs, and consumers paid less for the song they want. 

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Re: DOJ is right about Apple's price fixing with ABA
Noreen Seebacher   4/12/2012 3:44:20 PM
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But at what cost, @ValueHiker? How many other companies did Apple kill building that business model? And what about the artists? At the same time, maybe the low cost is an illusion. What was you getting for 99 cents? Just the right to listen to the song through an Apple device, really.

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Re: DOJ is right about Apple's price fixing with ABA
TelecomFreq   4/12/2012 4:09:45 PM
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Apple really does see something in ebooks, they even have a free publishing software you can get to publish your ebooks directly to iBooks. I had read someplace that they are marketing it to academics to try and get more textbooks exclusivly on ibooks, kind of a smart idea.

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Re: DOJ is right about Apple's price fixing with ABA
Value Hiker   4/12/2012 5:30:08 PM
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There are companies going belly up for every new innovation. We shall not blame the digital camera manufacturers for the bankruptcy of Kodak,  nor blame Dell for the death of the many small computer stores.  If the company does not bring value to its customer, it does not deserve a profit from its business.

It is the label companies who got hurt by Apple, not the artists. As a middle man,  label companies squeeze both consumers and artists at the same time. The relationship between record labels and artists is a difficult one in most case, and artists are usually weak on the bargain table against label companies. The iTune store offer a wonderful channel for talent artist to reach his/her fans. 

By the way, Apple started to sell DRM-free songs in 2007 and removed DRM from all songs it sold on iTunes since 2009. Nowadays you can play the song you purchased from iTune on any devices.

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long term impact
cat tail   4/12/2012 7:52:31 PM
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We all better hope this doesn't turn out to be the "generational short" that some people apparently think it is. It could have devastating consequences if Apple contracted to a large extent.

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Drivewaygirl   4/12/2012 8:22:03 PM
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Nice commentary Scott! It makes you think to see all this spelled out.

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Previous antitrust threat
Tenacious   4/12/2012 10:22:45 PM
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Whatever happened with that threatened suit against Apple a few years ago? You know, when either the Federal Trade Commission or the Department of Justice threatened an antitrust action over Apple's decision to block Flash and other cross-platform development tools from the App Store?

 

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The Takeover
icebreaker1975   4/12/2012 10:49:06 PM
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Between Facebook and Apple, I don't know who is taking over more.  FB grabbing instagram, Apple snatching up the cell phone and tablet market...true, its great for the economy, but not so good for competition.

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Re: The Takeover
ProfR   4/13/2012 7:26:08 AM
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True, Apple does still dominate in many markets. However, in Smartphones, Android is making gains. Will be interesting to see where this goes and how this effects the market for apps like ebooks.

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Re: The Takeover
Noreen Seebacher   4/13/2012 7:44:48 AM
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Android lost smartphone market share to Apple for the first time in the fourth quarter last year, slipping from 52.5% of the market to 50.9%, according to data from market research company Gartner.  Apple has only 23.8% of the global smartphone market, but its share is growing. RIM is far behind (In the US, RIM has about 5% of the market, Android has 48%, Apple has 32% and all others (including Windows phones) have 4%)

Android's performance is pretty constant, but the iPhone is growing in popularity. Among recent acquirers who got their smartphone within the last three months, 48 percent of those surveyed in February said they chose an Android and 43 percent bought an iPhone, Nielsen reported in February.



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Re: The Takeover
ProfR   4/13/2012 9:52:19 AM
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Noreen, Interesting data. I also think the Apple iPhone is a better product then the Android phones. However, if the Android phones continue to improve and with Google behind the Android marketplace, Android will still have some power in this market.

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Re: The Takeover
Noreen Seebacher   4/13/2012 10:18:20 AM
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What's anyone predict about Windows phones? The Microsoft-Nokia partnership is off to a bad start, from an Easter Sunday launch (when many retail AT&T stores were closed) to technical glitch that prevents some of the phones from accessing the Internet.

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Re: The Takeover
ProfR   4/13/2012 1:03:15 PM
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I think it is going to be tough for Windows because they are so late to the party. However, there are a few things in their favor. They already have a large number of apps available probably because many developers are used to working with Microsoft. Also the initial Nokia phones have a good design. I think Microsoft needs to leverage other products they have as Apple does to gain share here.

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Re: The Takeover
Value Hiker   4/13/2012 3:13:56 PM
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If you believe the key to the success of smartphone platform is how many Apps developers they will attract,  then Windows have a good chance to survive, but not to prosper. The most recent survey shows:

1. 90% of developers like iOS

2. 85% of developers like Android

2. 33% of developers like Windows Phone

Apple will continue to do well, Android will keep its top spot, and Windows will play catchup. 

RIMM is dead. 

 

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Re: The Takeover
Noreen Seebacher   4/13/2012 4:04:24 PM
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ValueHiker, any explanation why developers prefer iOS over the other platforms?

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Re: The Takeover
Value Hiker   4/13/2012 5:32:59 PM
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Developers usually choose their platforms based on three important considerations:

1. Market Share

2. Platform unity

3. Support on developing tools

During PC era, Microsoft quickly grabbed the largest PC OS market share by allying with IBM, provided the easiest & cheapest (if not the best) developing tools for developers. It has the unified API cross all its Windows platforms. Unix failed due to its market segmentation, and Mac OS failed on the fact it never grabbed enough market shares.

During the smart phone era, iOS grabbed the lion share of the market with its first mover advantage, combined with its easy to use developing tools and unified UI interface, it won the support of apps developers. Android repeated the Unix OS error - segmented its market by allowing different hardware vendors developed their own UI. Windows repeated the Mac OS's error - never accumulated enough market shares to attract developer's attention.

If Google can take back control its UI, the Android OS will win, otherwise we will see the battle between iOS and Android continues for the foreseeable future.


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Re: The Takeover
Noreen Seebacher   4/15/2012 9:20:11 PM
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Just an aside on the Nokia Lumia 900-- the phone with the internet connection problem. The costs to produce the phone include a bill of materials of $209, plus a manufacturing cost of $8, according to a preliminary estimate reported by iSuppli. So if they are selling them for $99 and giving everyone who buys one a $100 credit, it doesn't look good, does it?

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Dex   4/16/2012 8:15:19 AM
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No. And while the iPhone recovered from the antenna trouble a few years ago, the iPhone already had a fan base. The Lumia 900 is shaky from the start, and that's going to make it hard for buyers to get past this flaw.

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Re: The Takeover
cat tail   4/16/2012 9:09:28 AM
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Nokia and Microsoft Corp. are both scheduled to release quarterly earnings on Thursday. It'll be interesting to look at the numbers and hear what they say. But I'm not holding my breath for a valid explanation.

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Re: The Takeover
Tenacious   4/16/2012 9:46:10 AM
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They really have no excuse for such a blatent screw-up.

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Re: The Takeover
Value Hiker   4/16/2012 3:10:46 PM
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After 5 consecutive quarterly loss, and two pre-earning warnings, I don't have much confidence from Nokia. Lumia 900 is a good phone, but no good enough to compete with either iPhone or Android phone. 

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Re: The Takeover
Scott Raynovich   4/18/2012 4:19:38 PM
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@Value Hiker

You make a great point about platform unity and development. The number one complaint about Android is market fragmentation/bugs. So if they can't fix this they may indeed run into trouble.

Steve Jobs was always a fanatic about platform unity and control and it shows in Apple products, they just work better.

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Re: The Takeover
Value Hiker   4/18/2012 6:36:25 PM
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Scott, I own both iOS and Android devices. I have not trouble to switch between different Apple devices (itouch, iphone, ipad), ipod is a little different, but it is dying anyway.

For Android devices, I had different smart phones from LG, HTC, motorola, and Samsung. Even the core of these devices are the same, I still need spending a week or two to get familiar with the UI ( or bloatware) of different vendors after each switch. It is a real pain for technical guy, but a turnoff for regular consumer.

Hope Google can really make its decision to take back the control of Android UI. Otherwise, it will definitely hurt customer loyalty.

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Its about time
tokyogai   4/13/2012 10:00:55 AM
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The whole e-books market just confounds me. The cost to the publisher is MUCH lower- no printing, no shipping, no returns, etc and yet the price is higher. How long did they think that would last? I see Apple as more a victim here- they just agreed to go along with the publishers so they could open a store and compete with Amazon. The real bad guys here are the publishers who got what they wanted from Apple. Time to disassemble this cozy pricing relationship and compete.



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