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Blame the Debt Crisis for Dragging Down Housing

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yalanand
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Re : Blame the Debt Crisis for Dragging Down Housing
yalanand   7/30/2011 12:50:21 PM
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Yes, I believe the Democrats, Republicans, Conservatives, and Tea Party proponents will eventually broker a deal.

John,

 With each passing day chances of brokering a deal is becoming slim. I really hope sense prevail and they will eventually broker a deal.

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Re: Its Inevitable...This needs to happen.
back2basicz   7/29/2011 9:29:45 AM
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John,

I had written about this here as well...

http://www.investoruprising.com/messages.asp?piddl_msgthreadid=240282&piddl_msgid=424861#msg_424861

Its time for the US Economy to make a much needed U-turn .The Budgetary crisis can be an awesome oppurtunity for that to happen(no matter how gut wrenching the transistion is).

Regards

Ashish.

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back2basicz   7/29/2011 9:25:07 AM
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ImpactNow,

I respect your sentiments-

"

Let’s start cutting the fat from Washington before cutting the jobs of the average American."

Unfortunately as someone who has seen and understood Bueracrats closely There is an extremely low chance of this happening before they get rid of everything else(incl.Social Security,Medicare and other Tax benefits).

I for one would love to see all Govt Employees get a straight 10% paycut as a means to help balance the US Budget.But will it happen???


Expect an outcry before this happens.

So unfortunately Housing will be hit by budget cutbacks.And in a way its a good sign.It will mark the end of us as a Nation of Consumers,transforming us into a Nation of  Producers and Savers.

That's the only way to move our country to a strong Financial Base.

Regards

Ashish.


Heinrich Coup-de-Suite
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Re: Its Inevitable...This needs to happen.
Heinrich Coup-de-Suite   7/29/2011 2:51:19 AM
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The Gang of Six caucus signifies a loss of influence by political leaders in heavily metropolitan regions.  Wealthy patrons are interested in America's resources, not its industrial workforce.  Where once mortgages were a good stabilising force in society, times have changed, and other means can be relied on to stabilise society.  It's just unfortunate that people are holding onto cards in a game where the rules are being changed against their interests.

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impactnow   7/29/2011 1:21:35 AM
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The gang of six are demonstrating short sightedness by suggesting that the mortgage interest deduction be eliminated. Home ownership fuels the economy way beyond the realtors and bankers, it employs the local repairman, the factory worker building a new appliance, your local clerk at Home depot, cleaning services, landscapers, pest control specialists, furniture company workers, etc. and the list goes on. Making home ownership less attractive than its already become based on the plummeting real estate market will solidify a permanent recession in the US. Let’s not let our legislators shut down our economy because they overspent, the mortgage tax deduction is not the issue nor should it be the fix for over budget wars, useless government programs, and fat pensions for government employees. Let’s start cutting the fat from Washington before cutting the jobs of the average American.

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Re: Its Inevitable...This needs to happen.
John Jordan   7/28/2011 8:10:31 AM
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I believe members of Congress will be leery of angering their constituents who are homeowners and rely on their mortgage interest deduction. I think that while it may be debated, in the end members of both sides of the aisle will not want to fan the flames of voter discontent more than they have already.

back2basicz
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Re: What is the biggest issue?
back2basicz   7/27/2011 3:19:22 PM
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Prof,

Its not that easy[although I wish it were].

Conventional wisdom says that if your raise Interest rates from the record lows currently in place,you should close the Spread(between short-term and long-term Interest rates) thereby forcing banks to work harder for the Yield(by lending cash out to Businesses who want to expand for instance).

However,seeing how most of the Too Big to Fail banks are afloat only because of these Super-low interest rates;I won't be surprised if many of them go bust in the prescence of higher and higher interest rates.

It also won't help them that most Mortgages will be defaulted on in this sceanario.Forcing them to take losses on their Housing Loan portfolios.This is a Credit Bust driven Recession after all.The ordinary rules don't apply-Atleast until they clear away all the bad debts/assets currently on Banks(& US Federal Reserve) books.

Regards

Ashish.

ProfR
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Re: What is the biggest issue?
ProfR   7/27/2011 2:29:40 PM
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You might be right. However, I think to get the bankers moving, you need higher interest rates. More lending should help housing and small businesses.

back2basicz
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Re: What is the biggest issue?
back2basicz   7/27/2011 1:49:40 PM
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Prof,

If Interest rates do rise,what is the guarantee that we will get more jobs here in America???For sure it will put an end to speculation.But beyond that I am not so sure.

After all is'nt it when the Yield Curve gets inverted[Short term Bonds yield more than Long Term Bonds] the harbringer of a Recession??Rising interest rates at the short end will cause this problem for sure.

Regards

Ashish.

back2basicz
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Its Inevitable...This needs to happen.
back2basicz   7/27/2011 1:45:17 PM
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John,

Sorry to dissapoint you but this is inevitable.

Its about time the US economy made the painful transistion from being a country of Consumers to Producers.

This is one of the ways its going to happen and will force the shrinking contribution of Housing towards overall GDP.No matter how much kicking and screaming the NAR does it has to happen.It just has to happen.

There is no way America can afford the liability of the GSEs so the days of subsidized housing are over.Its time consumers paid the real cost of housing out of their own pockets.That and that only will mark the end of all those boom and bust cycle which have been the hallmark of the US Housing sector.

Regards

Ashish.

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