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Nannies, Grannies, & Leveling the Playing Field

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Wendy Willbanks Wiesner
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Re: Micro-investing in 2012
Wendy Willbanks Wiesner   2/2/2012 11:41:15 PM
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Hello Predictable Chaos--

So pleased to see your interest in this area.  Yes, you are absolutely right about the restrictions.  The biggest problem, I believe, is the arcane definition of "sophisticated investor", currently the litmus test for having any flexibility as an investor.  Also the 500 investor threshhold is very limiting for any company wanting to raise small amounts from lots of people. 

The good news is that we are going to see some major changes.  The testimony coming out of the House Banking Subcommittee on Capital Formation is very encouraging.  

I am going to write in detail about the proposed changes very soon. 

Exciting times are on the horizon, both for investors wanting more opportunities, and for companies needing capital. 

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Re: Micro-investing in 2012
Scott Raynovich   2/1/2012 2:39:34 PM
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This is a pretty big movement and it makes sense if you think about it.

Hopefully it won't get bogged down in regulation.

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Micro-investing in 2012
PredictableChaos   2/1/2012 12:31:32 PM
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Maybe 2012 is the year small investors can help fund small businesses?

A new start-up called WeFunder is on a path to raise $4M from small investors who would like to participate in micro-capitalism.  Much in the model of Kiva, the micro-lending charity, except this one would be for-profit.

But get this - the business model is currently illegal for a for-profit enterprise.  We can give our life savings to MF Global, and that's okay; but we can't invest $500 bucks in a small business loan.  Huh?

This doesn't make any sense to Congress either - according to the WeFunder site Congress voted 407 to 18 in favor of "Crowdfunding"

Wendy - since you follow this area, I'm interested in your perspective.

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Re: Grannies may be good
back2basicz   9/18/2011 1:22:00 PM
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yalanand,

Its most important that atleast a few investors understand and appreciate this concept.You understand it right?

Now just convince one more person about the beauty of this concept.

That's all it takes to spread the word and build up realistic expectations regarding returns that are possible in the markets.

Its really very simple once you understand and I don't know why anyone would want to try any other approach then.

15% returns/year are quite possible by a mix of Blue-Chip Stocks and Bonds as long as you buy both below their Fair Value price.

Regards

Ashish.

 

yalanand
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Re: Grannies may be good
yalanand   9/15/2011 2:44:38 AM
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today's investor googles the company, reads two articles which they have no idea of the source, and are instantly an expert on the stock and they invest.


@erierunner,  I totally agree with you. We are relying too much on internet-google these days to make our invetment decision. Infact many hedge funda have started trusting twitter to identify the trend in market. For example derwent capital markets is trading based on twitter trend.


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Re: Grannies may be good
yalanand   9/15/2011 2:38:17 AM
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People always want the easy way out.Ask them to work hard,Save money and invest wisely by focussing on steady,blue-chip companies with reliable returns and they will look at you as if you are from MARS!!!

@Ashish, what you said is absolutely true. Many people dont like investing in blue-chip companies because they feel 15%  returns per year is pretty less. But what they fail to understand 15% compunded every year doubles the money in 4-5 years.

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Re: Grannies may be good
cat tail   9/14/2011 2:03:37 PM
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I agree. Much as I'd like to see expansion of market opportunities, I fear the gullibility of the masses.

back2basicz
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Re: Grannies may be good
back2basicz   9/14/2011 10:11:56 AM
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Erie,

I am not trying to sound condesceding or be cruel here;but the fact of the matter is people learn from their own experiences.

Unless they get burnt themselves they will not listen to what others are saying-No matter how wise or experienced those people maybe.

Its exactly the same with investments.

I have met so many people who subscribe to the hot stock theory it just blows my mind !!!

People always want the easy way out.Ask them to work hard,Save money and invest wisely by focussing on steady,blue-chip companies with reliable returns  and they will look at you as if you are from MARS!!!

People need to remember that there is NO Free lunch people.Period.

Regards

Ashish.

back2basicz
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Re: Grannies may be good
back2basicz   9/14/2011 10:01:53 AM
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Erie,

That is quite accurate.

Today's "investor" does not understand the difference between Investments and Speculation.

That is why they look to buy into a "Hot" Stock/Tip which has already appreciated by 30-50% in a month and then expect another 50% return in a month or so.

Real.genuine Investors don't expect such returns.And they are prepared to wait very long for their returns(Over a year easily);which is how much time it takes for typical investments made on long-term philosophies to play out.

I was reading somewhere that the Average Holding Period for a stock has dropped from over 2-3 years to more like 6 months today.That frankly speaking is too short a timeframe to decide whether or not an investment is worth it or not.

Regards

Ashish.

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Re: Grannies may be good
erierunner   9/14/2011 9:42:50 AM
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The appeal of the hot tip and quick hit is too great because so many people are desparate and are looking to hit the "lottery" as their last resort to get out of their financial woes.  Unfortunately the same people that are attacking the market this way are the same ones that shouldn't be investing any of their money even if it was a solid tip, they should be paying down debt, etc. 

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