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Wondering if Those Jobs Numbers Work

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impactnow
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impactnow   12/26/2011 2:50:24 PM
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The latest numbers are saying that the Black Friday fury is carried out throughout the season fueled by consumers paying down debt and refinancing so they had a little extra cash in the pocket to spare.

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Noreen Seebacher   12/18/2011 12:34:04 AM
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Good point. Just today, I returned something a family member purchased on Black Friday. It was a good deal, but it turned out she just didn't need another present for anyone on her list -- and preferred having her cash back to a bargain gift.

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Dex   12/18/2011 12:27:14 AM
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I'm also hearing that returns are unusually high this December, meaning some of those Black Friday bargains are going back to the stores.

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impactnow   12/18/2011 12:12:12 AM
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There were also strong Black Friday Sales in 2008 which turned out to be a horrible holiday season for retailers. Black Friday only represents a small portion of holiday shopping though it gets the most publicity, this weekend is typically the busiest.

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Re : Wondering if Those Jobs Numbers Work
yalanand   12/16/2011 1:24:40 AM
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But this recovery can't be consumer-led because the recession was caused by overspending (putting aside the role of the financial industry for the moment).

@Sherri, interesting point. So are you suggesting not to read too much into record black friday sales number.


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impactnow   12/16/2011 1:00:21 AM
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AskAsa- you have hit on exactly my earlier post about underemployment. How many of these folks are simply getting a job to try and stem the tide of bills. Many are not close to replacing the salaries they once earned. It’s a problem that is not truly being looked at and it will have long term implications.

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Heinrich Coup-de-Suite   12/14/2011 6:37:06 PM
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I meant that the US has chosen to back its TBTF industries.  It continues to tap into a credit-based cash flow even as interest payments reach half a trillion yearly, and appears to be pursuing the leverage to continue on this course indefinitely.

Further, west coast industries are so entrenched as to not need backing by the Treasury.  Aerospace and Hollywood are two that are not going anywhere in a hurry, along with others mentioned.  Aerospace is funded by lavish federal programs, and the recent anti-piracy legislation shows that the government is willing to build a legal framework around big media's aging business model.

Between being cryptic and being long-winded--trying to strike a balance here!

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Scott Raynovich   12/14/2011 5:08:46 PM
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"I'm only pointing out that the leading industries are well-positioned for collapse."

Well that's reassuring. Cryptic statement though, can you be more detailed?


Heinrich Coup-de-Suite
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Heinrich Coup-de-Suite   12/14/2011 4:08:23 PM
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You mean the recently deregulated electrical grid?  "What the market will bear" is not a tenet of socialism Ashish.

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back2basicz   12/14/2011 2:26:06 PM
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Heinrich,

You can add usage of the most expensive power in the nation to this mix as well-Which happens to benefit Warren Buffet!!!

Regards

Ashish.

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