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Money Only Buys a Little Happiness

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Street Smart
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Happiness is NOT America's Middle Name
Street Smart   4/10/2012 11:12:59 AM
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@Sherri, I love this post and with a background in experimental psychology, I love happiness research!  Some of the findings are very interesting.  Did you know that though money doesn't buy happiness, college-educated people feel they need more money to be happy than those who didn't go to college?  Did you know that gratefulness, and keeping a daily journal of things one is grateful for is the number one contributer to reported happiness?  (Paging Oprah...who has made a LOT of money off of that idea...)  And did you know that a lot of what we think of as being resiliance and optimism have genetic components?

But here's the thing that I think our nation is up against versus oh, say Bhutan.  I think our national character is deeply unhappy and prone to be dissatisfied.  I don't just mean now either; I mean since the time of the Pilgrims.

Our nation was founded by unhappy people, people who found fault with the status quo in religion, government, opportunity, the weather on the east coast...you name it. Everybody who came to America, or moved west from the original 13 colonies felt some basic unhappiness with what they fled from.

We tend to label that dissatisfaction by different names--drive or optimism or "not settling" but maybe our deeply-rooted push for bigger, better, MORE guarantees that happiness will always be slightly out of reach.

I'm afraid there's a reason why organizations who are seeking social change are called NOT-for-profits.  I don't see too many yoga studios going public!

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Re: Happiness is NOT America's Middle Name
Noreen Seebacher   4/10/2012 11:19:52 AM
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@Street Smart, that matches a lot of the stuff I've seen and heard too. In fact, I think it's part of the video included in Sherri's post. Anyway, the point was that it is hard to compare happiness across countries because of cultural norms and biases. People in France, for instance, tend to rate themselves as less happy than people in Mexico, even when they have what could be construed as "better" standards of living. In other cultures, people shy away from calling themselves happy because they are religious/superstitious about invoking the wrath of god -- who may take that happiness away.

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Noreen Seebacher   4/10/2012 11:21:44 AM
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As for resilience and optimism -- @Street Smart -- you say they may have genetic components. Well, I definitely got the resilience. But I think I got short-changed on the optimism.

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cat tail   4/10/2012 11:50:34 AM
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I found the Eight Secrets of Happiness -- as shown in the slideshow in this post -- really interesting, especially how they seemed to echo some of the same points in Michael's post below about Time being an Investor's Strongest Ally.

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Phoenix   4/10/2012 12:45:20 PM
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@street smart It was really interesting to read about the facts you have given about happiness. I was surprised to read about the gratefulness diary, this is something that sounds very simple but seems to have profound results. I agree with the notion that money does not buy happiness. I have been part of research studies aimed at measuring satisfaction but I wonder how happiness can be measured?

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Noreen Seebacher   4/10/2012 1:51:16 PM
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It's especially hard to quantify given those cultural variations. If someone in a modest home who works very hard physically to maintain his or her family is "happy" in one country, would that same person be happy under similar conditions in another? Or do we measure our "happiness" against the perceived happiness of our friends and families? In other words, are we unhappy when other people who seem to work only as much or less than we do have more?

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Value Hiker   4/10/2012 1:29:03 PM
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@StreetSmart, you are right the pilgrams were not happy about the status quo. That was the reason these people left the Old World and came to this land. The pursuit of happiness is their source of happiness. As Steve Jobs once said: the journey is the reward. 

 

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Sherri Cruz   4/10/2012 3:08:10 PM
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@StreetSmart In my humble opinion, happiness itself is overrated. 

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Street Smart   4/10/2012 3:23:26 PM
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@Sherri, I know what you mean about happiness being overrated.  Sometimes the only thing that happens when one is questing for it is that they become more miserable!  I think it might be what @Noreen identified--the gap between expectations and reality.

I've concluded that the only way to eliminate that gap is to live in the moment as much as possible.  In fact, isn't that one of the goals of Buddhism?

I have lost three parents (mother, father and step-father) to sudden, gone-in-the-blink-of-an-eye accidents and health crises, and those losses have changed how I think about life.  These days, I try to emulate my dog--happy and peaceful whatever the circumstances.  She has love, she has food, she has walks and she has tummy rubs...oh yes, and NO worries about tomorrow.

If today were our last day on earth, would we really spend it Fed watching?

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Sherri Cruz   4/10/2012 3:40:11 PM
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There are so many other worthy feelings and emotions, and as you mentioned, life is full of tragedies. That in-the-moment thing works for me. Yes, dogs -- and cats -- have it about right. 

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Noreen Seebacher   4/10/2012 3:58:23 PM
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The UN resolution about the happiness index was created by the prime minister of Bhutan. Forest-laden Bhutan, sandwiched between China and India, has a population of 725,000. More than a quarter of Bhutan's population lives on less than $1.25 a day, and 70 percent of the population is without electricity.

Yet look at this image of a Bhutanese farmer. And it's not unique. Google Bhutan and you'll find dozens of images of people who seem very happy. So what is it? Certainly not money. Maybe a sense of contentment?



 

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Drivewaygirl   4/10/2012 7:14:07 PM
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Contentment seems right. Look at these faces!





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Broadway   4/10/2012 8:40:32 PM
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If we're being serious here about Bhutan, I think a simple serious explanation for their contentment is expectation. Western culture is fraught with unrealistic expectations -- French people want to live on vacation all the time, Americans all want to become billionaires and/or Idols, English people want their soccer teams to win each weekend, etc. etc. When those expectations meet reality we're all destined for a life of misery.

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driven   4/10/2012 9:21:32 PM
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Those are valid observations. I think Bhutan puts far less emphasis on the external things we value so much. For instance, the government puts inner spiritual development on a par with material improvement.

In addition, the BBC also notes that Bhutan was the last nation in the world to introduce television in 1999. Recently it banned a number of channels including international wrestling and MTV, which they felt did little to promote happiness.  It also plastic bags and tobacco on the grounds that they make the country less happy.

But keep in mind one thing: "Bhutan has been able to adopt radical policies partly because it is a remote kingdom and partly because it is an absolute monarchy."

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Tenacious   4/10/2012 9:49:06 PM
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"Bhutan has been able to adopt radical policies partly because it is a remote kingdom and partly because it is an absolute monarchy."

Maybe it's just easier to create happiness in a vacuum.

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What makes me happy..
icebreaker1975   4/10/2012 11:01:11 PM
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definitely no money. Its family, faith and helping others.

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ProfR   4/11/2012 9:15:57 AM
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Icebraker, I agree. I think it is family, faith in religion and helping others that make people happy. If you focus here you get a sense of contentment and well being that money cannot bring. 

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Noreen Seebacher   4/11/2012 11:41:39 AM
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Ok...well money may not be the most important thing. But you have to eat, have a roof over your head, have the right clothes for your job, pay for transportation...

So what income level is necessary for happiness? Is there a minimum? And once you reach a certain threshold of having all the necessities, does the payoff of more money evaporate?

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tokyogai   4/11/2012 12:56:31 PM
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I think it is very much like Maslow's hierarchy of need. When you are foraging for food and trying to survive ( like the bottomof the economic ladder) , then some amount of money makes life much easier and allows for more happiness. When you have all you need and are buying things because you are bored ( self actualization), then more money means very little and doesn't make you appreciably happier. It just depends on where you are on the ladder.

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cat tail   4/11/2012 1:02:21 PM
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The hard part is recognizing once you've climbed to a safe place on the ladder, and then having the courage to invest some of your efforts in something greater than money alone.

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ProfR   4/11/2012 2:16:53 PM
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I think that is correct. Once you get to a certain level with respect to basic needs, then you need something more than money alone. However, this level is different for different people. There have been some surveys that say that people who are religious are generally more happy. I think that is because they see helping others and their family are important.

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Broadway   4/11/2012 9:47:28 PM
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Not sure it's safe to say that religious people are happier because they help people. It really depends on your religion. If you're a christian missionary perhaps you are feeling you're helping people, but buddists are more about inner peace. And please remember that you can help people and not believe in a conventional religion.

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ProfR   4/12/2012 11:32:09 AM
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Broadway,

That is all true. But I was just saying there have been some surveys that say generally people who are religious tend to be happier. I am sure there are other ways to be happy also.

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What is true happiness?
icebreaker1975   4/27/2012 4:26:23 PM
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Al Green said it best, "Love & Happiness"  If you don't have love in your life you most likely won't experience any happiness.  Whether you love money, cars, or your family, you hav to have some love to exist (at least in my mind).



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