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Sprint Still Hoping to Raise Its Game

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Noreen Seebacher
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Predictions
Noreen Seebacher   3/1/2012 7:49:50 AM
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Any predictions on how this will shake out JP?

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Re: Predictions
Joao-Pierre Ruth   3/1/2012 8:43:53 AM
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I am not sure how much more aggressive Sprint is willing to be in order to grow.

It was disappointing that the rumors were about a potential MetroPCS deal and not T-Mobile. Sprint finally got the iPhone (I'm still sorting out how much THAT cost them to do) and dodged a bullet when the AT&T and T-Mobile deal died. That would have put Sprint very, very far behind the Big Two in terms of subscribers.

There is some chatter about the Sprint board defying Dan Hesse on MetroPCS. I think it depends on what Sprint thinks it can do to grow. Neither of the Big Two could or seems interested in acquiring Sprint (in one piece). So unless there is an outsider from the broader telecom market eager to get into wireless, I don't see anyone rushing to buy Sprint... at least as a whole entity.

Which brings us back to Sprint trying to acquire someone smaller. Sprint got a bit of a bump when it bought Virgin Mobile USA but not nearly enough to make it a serious contender with Verizon Wireless and AT&T. For the moment, T-Mobile could be a little gun-shy when it comes to M&As.

It would be woefully ironic if T-Mobile went into acquisition mode and got its hands on MetroPCS. Toss in a couple of regional wireless deals and then T-Mobile moves within striking distance of Sprint for the No. 3 spot.

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Re: Predictions
tokyogai   3/1/2012 9:31:38 AM
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Sprint clearly needs to do something. The big miss with Clearwire and then the decision to go LTE has got to hurt- along with the loss of subscribers. the iPhone is working for them, but the upfront costs are a killer. It may be a smaller, well financed rival taking Sprint down rather then the other way around.

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Phoenix   3/1/2012 11:08:48 AM
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What a lot of money to be loosing! It's clear that it is becoming harder and harder for sprint to get back in shape. If sprint wants to acquire companies what are the ones that could be considered good buys? Or if they wish to sell off who might be willing to purchase?

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Re: Predictions
TelecomFreq   3/1/2012 9:41:36 AM
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Sprint has really been a hit or miss with deals over the past few years. I know there deal with the major cable companies fell apart last year as well. I know between 2010 and 2011 they were also lossing subs at an alarming rate.

Sprint is also a CDMA carrier, a technology that seems to be lossing favor.

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Re: Predictions
Scott Raynovich   3/1/2012 10:47:49 AM
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Let's just have a look on a fundmental basis:

Operating margin: .64%

Return on equity: -22.5%

net income (ttm): -$2.89B

Total cash: $5.6B

Total debt: $20.27B

So, the company is bloated with debt and losing tons of money. Let's not overanalyze things, this is not a pretty picture. Sprint's best hope is to sell itself for the spectrum assets.

 

Noreen Seebacher
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Noreen Seebacher   3/1/2012 11:06:36 AM
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Well that pretty well puts things in perspective.

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Dex   3/1/2012 11:11:58 AM
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Got it Scott. Spring sucks!

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Re: Predictions
TelecomFreq   3/1/2012 11:31:45 AM
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yup, those numbers are a kick in the....... Nice way to sum it up Scott!

Noreen Seebacher
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SprinTV app
Noreen Seebacher   3/1/2012 11:29:29 AM
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How much do you think this will help Sprint's performance?

Sprint just announced the SprinTV app, a  free application that lets users watch select live and on-demand programming from a variety of partners, including ABC, CBS, NBC, ESPN, The Disney Channel, MTV and Comedy Central. Should be convenient for users with unlimited data plans.



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cat tail   3/1/2012 11:37:40 AM
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Wait, @Noreen...you forgot to mention what could make all the difference. Sprint is also offering premium viewing packages on this app. So for $4.99 to $9.99, you'll be able to keep up with all your must-see TV, like "Keeping Up With The Kardashians" and "SpongeBob Squarepants."

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Re: SprinTV app
Tenacious   3/1/2012 11:47:14 AM
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No matter what Sprint offers it won't make up for its poor customer service and the general unreliability of its network.

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driven   3/1/2012 12:06:25 PM
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It's a cool app, but it still won't convince me to go back to Sprint. Been there, done that...never again.

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Re: SprinTV app
TelecomFreq   3/1/2012 12:20:13 PM
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@Tenacious, I agree there network is pretty bad, When I lived in Rhode Island I had Sprint service because it was deeply discounted through my employer, but just to get service at my house I had to get one of there femto cells. Sprint provided the device for free, but given the population density where I lived there was no real reason for me to not have coverage othewise.

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Re: SprinTV app
Scott Raynovich   3/1/2012 2:37:34 PM
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Um. An app? Gonna save a company with $20B in debt burning through $3B a year? I don't think so.

Noreen Seebacher
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Noreen Seebacher   3/1/2012 2:39:50 PM
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But it has the Kardashians Scott! And SpongeBob.

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Scott Raynovich   3/1/2012 2:47:35 PM
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LOL, oh yeah, the Kardashians -- I forgot, they are the key to everything.

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The last straw on the sprint's back
Value Hiker   3/1/2012 12:46:15 PM
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Sprint cut a $20B multiple-year iphone deal with Apple at the end of 2011. The deal alone could be  the last straw to crash sprint. Sprint celebrated the deal as a big win. I think it is a celebration of fools: The deal carried huge risk for sprint investor. The real winner is Apple. Let's look at the deal in detail:

1. Sprint is commited to buy $20B or 30M iphone. For Sprint to digest the inventory, it means more than half of the current Sprint subscriber must buy a iPhone, but US smartphone penetration will be only about 60% at the end of 2015, will it mean that every smartphone user at Sprint will have an iPhone?

2. It may appear as low probability, but what if iPhone 5 is a flop? Sprint will end up with a huge expansive inventory, and only a deep discount will clean up these inventory. Add this to the top of current loss, Sprint will go belly up for sure.

3. Sprint claimed iphone 5 deal is exclusive, sounds great. But if you dig in, you will find that Sprint will have the exclusive right for WiMax version of iphone 5. AT&T and Verizon can sell the LTE version of iPhone 5. Unfornately the whole world is consolidate to LTE, it basically makes the Sprint's exclusive deal meanless.

I will be sleepless if I was a Sprint investor

 

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Re: The last straw on the sprint's back
PredictableChaos   3/1/2012 1:25:59 PM
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@Value Hiker

Good summary.  Sprint bet the company on that iPhone deal.  Difficult to see how they can sell enough iPhones to make it worthwhile.  (Buying MetroPCS might have helped in this mission.)  And if they do manage to deploy all the iPhones, the resulting data traffic will put a strain on their network. 

The SprinTV app that Noreen mentioned, also drives more data traffic headaches.

They do need to create reasons for people to consider Sprint, so iPhones and TV apps are good ideas.  Just not clear that it's enough to stop the bleeding.

PC

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Re: The last straw on the sprint's back
Scott Raynovich   3/1/2012 2:48:48 PM
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Value Hiker--

great analysis. Sounds like they have some geniuses up there on the corner offices. Obviously marketing and desperation drove that deal.

--Scott

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Re: The last straw on the sprint's back
Value Hiker   3/1/2012 5:02:24 PM
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Maybe Sprint CEO Dan Hesse drank too much Kool Aid from Tim Cook. 

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Fallout
Noreen Seebacher   3/2/2012 10:07:41 AM
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Sprint could gain at least some subscribers from AT&Ts new move to crackdown on unlimited data. AT&T just  changed its policy on dealing with legacy "unlimited" data users consuming what the company considers to be "too much" of the unlimited data that they signed up for. Previously the company would throttle the data connections for any users that were in the top 5 percent of their local market's data users.

Now it's rolled out a new policy that is more transparent. It states that unlimited users will receive a text message that warns them when they approach the 3GB soft limit of data use. Breaching that limit will result in any additional data for the remainder of the current billing cycle being slowed down, with normal speeds returning at the beginning of the next billing cycle. If an unlimited data customer goes past the 3GB limit in a later month, no warning will be issued via text message, though users will always have the ability to dial *data# (*3282#) to see where they stand.

I still wonder how a company can legally limit "unlimited data. But that point aside, some customers may be angry enough to switch -- if Sprint can stick around until enough of them get out of their existing contracts.

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Re: Fallout
cat tail   3/2/2012 10:18:50 AM
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Google still seems confident: It plans to add "at least 10 additional phones" on Sprint this year.

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Re: Fallout
Scott Raynovich   3/2/2012 11:09:06 AM
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Maybe Google will buy them. Seems like they want to own everything.

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Re: Fallout
driven   3/2/2012 11:19:07 AM
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Remember how people used to say Bill Gates was the anti-Christ? i'm starting to think it's Google.

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Re: Fallout
Tenacious   3/2/2012 10:27:21 AM
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Re: Fallout
driven   3/2/2012 10:36:21 AM
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Funny ad, but makes me wonder why they don't invest some of that ad spend on better service.

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Re: Fallout
Value Hiker   3/2/2012 2:28:57 PM
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The top priority of all carriers is to acquire new subscribers. It is clearly shown on their financial statement. They all talked about how many new customers they attracted each quarter. Nobody bother to provide data about how satisfied the existing customers are. Once they locked you down with two years contract, you are nobody - just a cow to be milked.

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sprint
AskAsa   3/3/2012 11:40:55 AM
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Limiting -"unlimited" data is just one more example of the doublespeak and doublethink needed to wrap your head around modern corporate strategies and promotions. We should start a national clarity week.

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Noreen Seebacher   3/3/2012 4:07:44 PM
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It's hard to expect people to protect themselves by reading the fine print if corporations do things like change the meaning of basic words. I mean, shouldn't unlimited mean without limits?

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Scott Raynovich   3/5/2012 9:47:33 AM
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I'm actually sympathetic to the carriers on data. Unfortunately the way the smartphone market started out, customers were conditioned to be allowed to scarf down whatever they want on their phone. However bandwidth has a cost, spectrum is growing scarce, and all of that equipment needs to be bought in order to supply the onslaught of users.

As a fairly light users of smartphone data, I don't really want to subsidize all of those people who are uploading video clips and reloading facebook all day long. To me it makes sense to have data limits as it will essetnailly ratchet back  superfluos uses of the data (youTube Kitten videos).

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Unlimited data plans
PredictableChaos   3/5/2012 5:21:04 PM
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I'm actually sympathetic to the carriers on data.

You're right Scott. There are real costs associated with handling the exponential growth in data.  And when "unlimited" plans were first sold, nobody foresaw the levels of data usage that are now becoming common.

Still, the major carriers could have planned a more graceful path to wean consumers from these plans.  Years ago, when they stopped taking new "unlimited" accounts; it would have been honest to admit that "unlimited" would only exist for a limited time.  They could have communicated an end-date that was far enough in the future so people would understand. 

And now that we've reached that date, they could have put the cap at a level that will only effect a small number of the most intense accounts.

 

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Re: Unlimited data plans
Noreen Seebacher   3/5/2012 6:07:45 PM
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I'm not sympathetic. If you sell me unlimited then I expect unlimited. Your failure to plan is not my problem.

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Re: Unlimited data plans
PredictableChaos   3/5/2012 9:03:18 PM
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My sympathy doesn't mean I agree with the way the carriers have managed the hands they were dealt.

I'd ask a couple questions - how much data do you consume in an average month? And How much extra do you want to pay to subsidize your neighbor who takes 30GB every month?

My answers, which a lot of smartphine customers share are - about 2G per month, and zero, nada, zip, nothing.

Completely agree that "unlimited" plans must be renamed if they are now limited.

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Re: Unlimited data plans
Scott Raynovich   3/5/2012 11:04:35 PM
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>I'm not sympathetic. If you sell me unlimited then I expect unlimited. Your failure >to plan is not my problem.

 

LOL. That is funny. But how do you really feel?




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