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Yum! Nibbling Its Way Back to Dinner Tables

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Noreen Seebacher
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Re: It is the low pay, no health insurance, employees
Noreen Seebacher   4/30/2012 10:35:08 PM
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Ha ha! I'm an equal opportunity cynic -- There are good and bad restaurants of all kinds.

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Re: It is the low pay, no health insurance, employees
Broadway   4/30/2012 9:40:06 PM
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I used to have a high school biology teacher who swore that we should always eat fast food when on road trips in strange places because they posed less risk of food poisoning them some unknown mom and pop shop. Because of standardization of product and sanitation procedure. Then I met Noreeen.

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Re: It is the low pay, no health insurance, employees
Noreen Seebacher   4/30/2012 9:30:50 PM
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Don't give up on all fast food! Just be prudent. I don't care if a restaurant is part of a chain or not. You need to use your senses to determine if it seems clean and well run, and resist the urge to simply assume everything is fine because of the name on the door.

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Re: It is the low pay, no health insurance, employees
PredictableChaos   4/30/2012 8:00:44 PM
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Oh thanks Noreen, now none of us can eat fast food for fear of what corners have been cut.

I too worked in food service some yeas ago - in an ice cream shop. Our managers ran a clean store - I didn't see anything that would make me think twice about eating there.

On the other hand we didn't have parties with alcohol either, unless maraschino cherries have alcohol? I do remember enjoying an absurdly huge number of cherries on our free daily Banana splits or sundaes. Ah.. To eat like a teenager.

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Re: It is the low pay, no health insurance, employees
Noreen Seebacher   4/30/2012 4:43:10 PM
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I'm going back a long way -- to high school. But my recollection was that the assistant managers on each shift competed with each other to do the best in sales, etc  and that drove them to make questionable decisions. We'd reuse mayonnaise that had been out for our full shift rather than dumping it at closing...they let a woman with severe eczema (on her hands!) prepare food without gloves...did I mention the mice that would fall asleep in the Styrofoam boxes stored in the basement (you know, the ones they put your sandwich in?).

On the bright side, for a kid anyway, they held a holiday party and served alcohol to all of us (yep the drinking age was 21 in Pennsylvania). I was 16. Whatever.

It was a weird experience.

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Re: It is the low pay, no health insurance, employees
Value Hiker   4/30/2012 4:06:13 PM
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@Noreen, I am surprised to learn store manager is more guilty than regular workers. Do store managers usually have the long term interests in the business? Do they get intense & frequent training in MacDonald/KFC/... Universities ? Do they earn 6 digit compensation each year?

I assume that at least these store managers cares a lot about customers. It seems I am wrong. I guess I get one more reason to stay away from the food of MCD or YUMs.

 

 

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Re: It is the low pay, no health insurance, employees
Noreen Seebacher   4/30/2012 3:15:42 PM
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As a former fast food worker I can tell you many of the shortcuts that hurt quality are unsanctioned store manager decisions. They do questionable things to boost store revenues, including reuse of product that should be discarded, according to official protocol.

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Re: It is the low pay, no health insurance, employees
Broadway   4/30/2012 2:34:09 PM
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@Value Hiker, Yum! corporate and other large restaurant chains spend millions in risk management, menu creation and logistics to ensure that customers receive uniform good service no matter where they are ordering their food across the country, and to ensure that their employees have safe and reasonable work environments. One can say that's an impossible proposition no matter how much they spend because of what you mentioned: disgruntled employees are everywhere, especially in low-wage environments, and are more impossible to predict than tornados, outbreaks of food-borne illness, customer slips and falls, and other more common risks.

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Noreen Seebacher   4/30/2012 1:27:29 PM
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Salmonella is disgusting. Now that I have that out of the way, consider this:

Salmonella can  be contracted via contact with other Salmonella reservoirs including dogs, cats, pigs, reptiles, rodents, cattle, and other infected people. An infected person or animal will often shed infectious bacteria in their feces. Any food product that has come into contact with animal feces — including fruits and vegetables — can spread Salmonella.

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Food may also become contaminated by the unwashed hands of an infected food handler who might or might not be showing symptoms. Salmonella can also be found in the feces of some pets, especially those with diarrhea. People can become infected if they do not wash their hands after contact with these feces. Reptiles are particularly likely to harbor Salmonella. People should always wash their hands immediately after handling a reptile, even if the reptile is healthy.

So 1) you could've had a food handler with unwashed hands or 2) the chicken could have encountered bacteria on the floor from a rodent (remember they said they didn't discard all the chicken that fell on the floor?)

 

 

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It is the low pay, no health insurance, employees
Value Hiker   4/30/2012 12:55:41 PM
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The root of the problem is still fast food employees. If you think Fast food is not healthy, you have the option to stay away. But if you ordered the food, you expect it is clean and properly prepared. On the contrary, consumers got rotten food, and even spit in the drink (http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/04/20/mcdonalds-employee-arrested-for-spitting-in-customers-drink/).

With minimum wage and no health insurance coverage, most front counter employees are not so happy, or proud of their works. Bad things are sure to happen from disgruntled employees 

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