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Gold in the Sky... or Just Pie?

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tokyogai
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Intrigued
tokyogai   4/25/2012 12:37:23 PM
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I like the whole idea, but as you point out- there are more than a few things still to be figured out. Since China has cornered the world market on many rare earth metals, it seems that finding clean alternatives would be a priority- especially as we make more hybrid cars and devices that need these materials. I would caution us to beware of the unintended consequences, however. I would feel better if NASA were involved.

Phoenix
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Re: Intrigued
Phoenix   4/25/2012 1:08:38 PM
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It is definitely a very interesting idea. However, there may be a lot of negative impact we have to deal with. The ecosystem on earth has a delicate balance. And even without introducing anything outside of this system there are many human activities which have affected the system. How are we going to know the impact of introducing the contents of asteroids into the system?

tokyogai
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Re: Intrigued
tokyogai   4/25/2012 1:39:25 PM
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I really don't think that is a big issue, especially if we refine in space. The amount of mass compared to the earth is small. I am more concerned with accidents that cause an asteroid to hit the earth.

Phoenix
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Re: Intrigued
Phoenix   4/25/2012 6:29:33 PM
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@Tokyogai You are right about that. It's going to be a task that will have to be monitored very closely. I suppose they will have to use robots with precision programming to control every minute detail. Possible human error could cause vast damage. I suppose it will also be difficult to have human miners working outside in such conditions so it is most likely that robots will take the lead.

Tenacious
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Re: Intrigued
Tenacious   4/25/2012 2:38:21 PM
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@tokyogai,

Planetary Resources is overseen by former NASA Mars mission manager Chris Lewicki.

Noreen Seebacher
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Hard to visualize
Noreen Seebacher   4/25/2012 2:07:13 PM
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I am having a crazy time imagining miners clinging to an asteroid as it speeds through space. But maybe that's just me.

Scott Raynovich
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Re: Hard to visualize
Scott Raynovich   4/25/2012 2:27:28 PM
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Don't we have enough things to fix on planet earth first?

Value Hiker
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Re: Hard to visualize
Value Hiker   4/25/2012 3:28:00 PM
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Like the Coca-cola's shrimp farming, whenever people or companies made tons of easy money, they want to squander it, one way or another, on earth or into space. 

Scott Raynovich
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Re: Hard to visualize
Scott Raynovich   4/25/2012 4:48:12 PM
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did Coca-Cola get into shrimp farming? I missed that one...

icebreaker1975
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Re: Hard to visualize
icebreaker1975   4/25/2012 5:26:20 PM
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Haha...thats a good one!

Value Hiker
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Re: Hard to visualize
Value Hiker   4/25/2012 8:14:11 PM
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In the 70s, Coke's Chief, Paul Austin, tried to diversify, investing in many fields like, water project, shrimp farms, and wineries. 

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2194&dat=19770822&id=Rzg0AAAAIBAJ&sjid=bvUIAAAAIBAJ&pg=6144,4350159

Noreen Seebacher
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Re: Hard to visualize
Noreen Seebacher   4/26/2012 10:41:27 AM
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Wow. Thanks for sharing that one @Value Hiker. Let's put the story here:



Drivewaygirl
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Re: Hard to visualize
Drivewaygirl   4/26/2012 10:58:10 AM
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It get's even weirder. I googled this and found that supposedly, the Chairman of Coca Cola in Mexico thought that there was great potential to sell farm-raised shrimp to McDonald's. McShrimp sandwiches, hold the cheese?

Noreen Seebacher
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Re: Hard to visualize
Noreen Seebacher   4/26/2012 11:10:54 AM
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Sergio Zyman, better known as the Coke executive behind the failed launch of New Coke -- something Fortune Magazine referred to in 1995 as "the biggest marketing blunder since the launch of Ford's Edsel" -- did have some interesting things to say about the shrimp farming.

You'd be amazed at how many companies confuse what they know how to do, their core competence, with what consumers will buy from them, what I call their core essence.

For example, Coke once got into the shrimp farming business. We had core competencies covering purchasing, distribution, sales, logistics, and global operational capabilities. Where it all fell apart was that we never thought about why customers would buy shrimp from us in the first place.

Shrimp farming was not a core essence. Consumers simply couldn't make a connection between shrimp and Coke.


Scott Raynovich
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Scott Raynovich   4/26/2012 12:06:34 PM
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Interesting because I recently read "Four Fish: The Future of the Last Wild Food." Very interesting read. A lot of stuff about acqualculture and how so far success has been limited. The key to success in acquaculture will be finding a species suitable to farming that can subsist on an economical diet because in many cases the cost of the feed outstrips return on the fish.

http://www.amazon.com/Four-Fish-Future-Last-Wild/dp/1594202567

TelecomFreq
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Cool Idea
TelecomFreq   4/25/2012 4:02:03 PM
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I heard about this on the radio the other day, I have to say I really thought it was an exciting idea, though probably one that will not work out. It brings me back to my days of reading Sci-Fi.

icebreaker1975
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MIning asteroids, eh...
icebreaker1975   4/25/2012 4:58:04 PM
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yeah, thats a new one.  I think I'll pass.

PredictableChaos
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PredictableChaos   4/25/2012 6:36:54 PM
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Mining small nearby asteroids is a great idea. 

Yes, it will have some secondary effects - for one, the risk of mass extinctions due to an asteroid - earth collisions will be reduced.  Once we have swarms of asteroid tracking satellites all over space - it will be nearly impossible for large asteroids to get through without being spotted well in advance.

In fact, this idea is so good, I"m putting it on my list of things to do, once I make my first billion dollars.

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Street Smart
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Moving on from the shrimp...
Street Smart   4/26/2012 1:11:03 PM
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I always love it when I come late to a conversation thread because these discussions take the most AMAZING turns, in this case from rare metals to shrimp farming.  The power of our collective minds is incredible...or NOT!

Back to the asteroids for a second...I'm thinking really, really big nets, or maybe just pull them in with a supersize magnet!

Seriously though, I think when the technology for retrieving space junk matures a bit, that will form the basis for asteroid capture as well.  And both sound like decidedly NON-shrimpy markets! 

Noreen Seebacher
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Re: Moving on from the shrimp...
Noreen Seebacher   4/26/2012 1:27:11 PM
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The minds of the people on this site are both expansive and insightful, not to mention a little quirky,

Street Smart
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Re: Moving on from the shrimp...
Street Smart   4/26/2012 3:43:36 PM
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Well, whatever we want to call our IU stream of consciousness, I love it @Noreen!  I always feel smarter or as if my POV has broadened with I'm here on the site.

Without IU, I would have missed shrimp farming, valuable rogue asteroids, the perils of footie pajamas...and your wing walker parachute story...and that's just THIS month!

Viva IU!

Scott Raynovich
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Re: Moving on from the shrimp...
Scott Raynovich   4/26/2012 5:24:14 PM
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If you read the book Four Fishes you will see that aquaculture is very important to the future! The world is running out of fish to feed people...

Value Hiker
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Re: Moving on from the shrimp...
Value Hiker   4/26/2012 10:50:04 PM
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Scott, your comments remind me the joke about George in one episode of Jerry Seinfeld": George, the Ocean called, they are running out of shrimp!

Noreen Seebacher
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Re: Moving on from the shrimp...
Noreen Seebacher   4/27/2012 7:55:14 AM
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LOL @Value Hiker

Scott Raynovich
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Re: Moving on from the shrimp...
Scott Raynovich   4/26/2012 5:26:55 PM
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P.S. what if somebody can figure out how to farm shrimp on asteroids? Then we are getting somewhere...

mInvestor
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Re: Moving on from the shrimp...
mInvestor   4/26/2012 6:22:15 PM
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The article and the discussion gave my an un-settling feeling. We human beings already consumed so much natural resources on earth, now some genius started to invest and develop to suck more natural resources from space. Good or bad? Really hard to say, but not a easy feeling.

 

Scott Raynovich
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Re: Moving on from the shrimp...
Scott Raynovich   4/27/2012 4:55:34 PM
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@Heinrich,

I think you are onto something. Clearly this is a project for Google with its extra billions in cash!

yalanand
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RE : Gold in the Sky... or Just Pie?
yalanand   5/11/2012 5:42:33 AM
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There's also the consequence of flooding the Earth with cheap gold and platinum.

@Joey, very intersting article. I think you have really scared all the gold/silver investor with your blog. Its already nearly 100$ down :) since the day your wrote this  blog.




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