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SEC Position a Travesty for Investors

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Broadway
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Re: SEC should act
Broadway   12/5/2011 5:27:40 PM
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I'll concede that SEC employees are not underfunded. But I think politics and the general anti-regulatory, anti-"big government" atmosphere in this country go a long way to explaining its ineffectiveness. A lot of investors talk out both sides of their mouth on this issue.

Scott Raynovich
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Re: SEC should act
Scott Raynovich   12/5/2011 11:35:02 AM
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Tokyogai,

I agree, $180,000 a year to push around papers and "pretend" to be protecting investors while Bernie Madoff flies under the radar is a bit ridiculous.

Also, why should we believe the argument that the SEC is underfunded? After all, one independent analyst, Harry Markopolos, tipped them off several times on Bernie Madoff, offering plenty of data and evidence that Madoff was a fraud, and they did nothing to pursue it! If a single analyst can uncover the problem but the entire agency can't do anything, you can hardly argue the the issue is a lack of resources.

You can argue whether the SEC is ineffectual because of the people that work there or politics, but it doesn't matter, it's clear that the agency has little to no impact. As I said the proof lies in Worldcom, Enron, and Bernie Madoff. If you can let the biggest frauds in history go under investors noses for decades, it's proof enough that you aren't doing your job.

Tenacious
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Re: SEC should act
Tenacious   12/5/2011 9:04:57 AM
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I agree. I don't think we should be finding reasons to excuse the SEC's lack of oversight. To assume that the agency can do a shoddy job because it doesn't match the million dollar salaries of Wall Street is saying that there is no one with integrity and brains will to work for a very good salary to protect the public interest. And while many people are lured by dollars, I have to think others have more lofty objectives for their careers or no one "good" or "smart" would work for nonprofits.

tokyogai
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SEC should act
tokyogai   12/5/2011 8:35:05 AM
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Instead fo all the xcuses, maybe it is time for the SEC to actually do something. All the arguments of deterrence would be bolstered by doing something instead of making excuses.

Noreen Seebacher
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Re: what's it mean
Noreen Seebacher   12/5/2011 7:12:37 AM
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They may not be the highest salaries on Wall Street, but they are very good salaries -- and some people are motivated by more than money. Some people are concerned about public service. And I think you could find some excellent people willing to work for $150,000 to $180,000 a year in the name of helping their country.

Broadway
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Re: what's it mean
Broadway   12/4/2011 3:52:09 PM
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As big as those salaries appear, they don't match what top financial talent can make on wall st (does the sec pay six figure bonuses?) private equity, or hedge funds. How many finance grads come out of top 10 MBA programs and go into government work?

driven
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Re: what's it mean
driven   12/3/2011 10:57:03 AM
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Those are hefty salaries. For that kind of pay -- plus very nice benefits -- I expect the SEC to do more than wrist slap these corporate fraudsters. Come on Broadway -- it's not like the agency is paying $50,000 a year to second rate investigators!

Noreen Seebacher
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Re: what's it mean
Noreen Seebacher   12/3/2011 10:53:38 AM
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Those are just a few of the salararies advertised for positions with the SEC on USAJobs.gov, the federal government's official HR site

Tenacious
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Re: what's it mean
Tenacious   12/3/2011 10:51:23 AM
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Wow. Are those actual SEC salary statistics?

Noreen Seebacher
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Re: what's it mean
Noreen Seebacher   12/2/2011 11:43:58 PM
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At the SEC, Supervisory Securities Compliance Examiners and supervisory staff accountants earn $109,012 to $170,699 a year. Senior financial analysts earn $126,661 to $212,710 a year. Fraud specialists earn $105,211.00 to $136,771. If the federal government isn't getting top talent with salaries like this, then maybe the biggest fraud is the one being perpetrated on the taxpayers who pay for these wages. Sorry Broadway - the SEC isn't some neighborhood nonprofit operating on a shoestring.

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