Re: Interesting observation
TelecomFreq
4/24/2011 11:05:40 PM
You bring up a great point, many people would imrove their economic standing before choosing to protect the earth. They really can not be blamed, if someone has nothing they can not afford to turn down that kind of money to give up mineral rights to their land.
Interesting observation
Tenacious
4/24/2011 3:25:39 PM
Here's an interesting observation about fracking from Adam Zoltowski, that puts the issue in perspective. Zoltowski said his parents live in an area of New York where energy companies hope to use the process.
I had a very enlightening conversation with my father who, like many landowners in upstate New York, is at the center of this issue. During our talk, I realized that this is not an issue of overall well being but of conflicting states of well being. My hometown of Spencer is very poor. Growing up, more than half of the students in my school were on free or reduced lunches. All that most of the residents know is living paycheck to paycheck with scant to give their children. Are they wrong to take the money and run, consequences to the earth be damned? I can’t say that they are. It’s too easy to have a blanketed statement against using fossil fuels without taking into consideration the socio-economic factors around the decisions being made.
On one hand, we have the economic well being of families and their desire to live a life that is enjoyable. On the other hand, we have the well being of the land. In many ways, this dynamic mirrors the issues of the United States and the developing countries of the world that want to experience the same economic progress as we have, even if it means growing dirty.
Yea, but just remember...
Tenacious
4/24/2011 3:13:40 PM
The Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection "will continue to be proactive in its mission in overseeing the hydraulic fracturing process, as well as all aspects of oil and gas well drilling, stimulation, production and site restoration."
Don't you feel better now?
Not the first incident in PA
AskAsa
4/24/2011 3:06:41 PM
Looks like there have been a couple of notable fracking incidents in Pennsylvania, including these:
- The Department of Environmental Protection has issued a cease and desist order to Catalyst Energy Inc. that prohibits the company from conducting all drilling and hydro-fracturing operations for the 36 non-Marcellus wells within 2,500 feet of two homes in the Yellow Hammer area of Hickory Township, Forest County. The order was issued after a DEP investigation confirmed that private water supplies serving the two homes had been contaminated by natural gas and elevated levels of iron and manganese from Catalyst’s operations.
- And this: XTO Energy, a subsidiary of Exxon Mobil, is under investigation by the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) after a 13,000 gallon hydraulic fracturing fluid spill at XTO Energy's natural gas drilling site in Penn Township, Lycoming County, PA.
Re: It's the company that matters
TelecomFreq
4/23/2011 3:37:22 PM
I find it Interesting that fins varie in their mix of fluid. I wouldn't mind to see the data behind the choice. Is it just money driving it or do different chemicals get better results?
More bad press for the natural gas industry as Reuters, The Huffington Post and others reported that Chesapeake Energy had stemmed the flow of leaking frack chemicals into a local waterway from a blown natural gas well in Pennsylvania.
According to the Reuters report, a Chesapeake Energy spokesman said that by late Thursday afternoon (April 21) efforts to seal the leak and regain control of well pressure were successful. The company used a mix of plastic, heavy mud and ground up tires to temporarily plug the well located in northeastern Pennsylvania. Reports stated that the blowout, which occured two days earlier, prompted Chesapeake Energy to suspend the hydrofracking process in the state of Pennsylviania.
Re: It's the company that matters
Tenacious
4/23/2011 1:26:51 PM
Couldn't agree more. From what I've read, the process varies greatly from one firm to another. Some are far more environmentally focused than others, and it's necessary to check what chemicals and fluids are used before giving any one of them the green light.
While fracking is the big issue, the equally important question is: "which company is engaged in the process?" All energy companies are not created equal, and we do firms a disservice by lumping them all together. Perhaps the best solution is to establish reasonable guidelines for fracking, and companies that are willing and able to follow those guidelines to have a safe and efficient operation should proceed. The others...forget about 'em.
Welcome to the "Fracking business" New York! Down South we have been delving in it for the past couple of years, and yes, at first everything was positive. People were excited, folks became instant millionaires through mineral rights sales and royalties, and everything was rosy. But now its looking kind of shaky, don't believe me, just ask Dish, TX, and see what the fracking business has done to them. I am all for it, as it pumps money into the economy, and stimulates communities, but at what cost? New York and Pennsylvania, ask yourself those questions?
Clean Energy
yalanand
4/22/2011 11:26:37 PM
will we ever find means for clean enegry that has no repercussions? ever increasing need of energy and the lure of profit for corporates will make it difficult for states to regulate and monitor the set standards. Going completely with the environmentalist will hamper the growth but not heeding to them will harm the mankind. only time will tell, how better we can secure our energy needs without harming ourselves.
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