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Drivewaygirl
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That old Apple
Drivewaygirl   8/25/2011 1:23:12 PM
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OMG that image of that old Apple 1 brought back memories. The brother of a friend had one for years as a conversation piece. What leaps in technology we've made.

Tenacious
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Visionary?
Tenacious   8/25/2011 1:26:13 PM
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We always view Jobs as the visionary. And perhaps he was. At a minimum, he was a great CEO. But here's the question. Do you think he really shaped the Apple products we now love or did he just have an idea -- and the teams put those ideas into tangible form?

Was his job only inspiration or did he actually drive innovation?

Phoenix
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Re: Visionary?
Phoenix   8/26/2011 1:52:02 AM
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I feel his team definitely was a big part of the success. But he is known for his hands on approach. And he is a perfectionist. So even if the team did most of the wirk he would have micro managed every step of the way.

Jacob
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Re: Visionary?
Jacob   8/26/2011 2:14:24 AM
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 Noreen, the retirement or step down decision of Steve job is shocking news of the business community. Eventhough, its expected because of his health related issues, the sudden declaration made a dilemma. Steve is stepping down with ‘n’ number of credits in his hands like iPod, IPad, Iphone etc. Hope the new CEO, may follow the same vision and mission of Job to carry forward apple in new heights.

Phoenix
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Sorry to see him go
Phoenix   8/25/2011 1:39:04 PM
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It is amazing to think of the path he followed to get where he is now. This is going to be a difficult adjustment for Apple. I liked the way he seemed to think outside the box. Thank you Noreen for summarizing all the good learning points that Jobs taught the world.

impactnow
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Steve Jobs
impactnow   8/25/2011 2:56:03 PM
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Steve Jobs is truly a leader in every aspect of his corporation from culture, product development and vision. Apple would not have made its historic comeback without his vision. He has the uncanny ability to understand what a consumer wants before they know what they want. The industry will miss him greatly and the American public will miss his innovation. Replacing his innate knack for technology product development will be difficult.

TelecomFreq
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Legacy
TelecomFreq   8/25/2011 4:47:26 PM
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Jobs is def going to leave a legacy as the man who brought Apple back from the brink. As an engineer I was always more fond of Woz, but from a pure technoloist perspective Jobs really was a super star. I think the impact he has made on the tech world will be felt for a long time.

PredictableChaos
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Can you imagine being the guy that fired Steve Jobs from Apple?
PredictableChaos   8/25/2011 6:09:52 PM
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Differences in management visions are common.  It's rare for an outgoing (1985) company founder to be vindicated so well that the people who fired him way back then feel they still have to explain themselves 25 years later -

Why I fired Steve Jobs from the company he founded - provides an explanation from John Sculley for his famous decision.

Tenacious
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Re: Can you imagine being the guy that fired Steve Jobs from Apple?
Tenacious   8/25/2011 7:37:46 PM
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Thanks for the link - it's really an interesting piece

Value Hiker
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Re: Can you imagine being the guy that fired Steve Jobs from Apple?
Value Hiker   8/25/2011 8:36:25 PM
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To be fair, Scully was not that bad of a leader. On the other side, Mr. Jobs drove everyone nuts at Apple before he was ousted. It was said that he did not even dare to park his car at the front of the Apple building, because some angry employees would scratch it right after he walked away. 

Mr. Jobs was a rough leader with a short temper 20 years ago, but he was a talented one. Unfortunately most board members just could not tolerate him at that time, so he was ousted. Mr. Scully did what the board chose to do, nothing more, nothing less  

 

PredictableChaos
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Re: Can you imagine being the guy that fired Steve Jobs from Apple?
PredictableChaos   8/26/2011 1:00:57 AM
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I really don't know enough about it to blame the board or Sculley either one.  In fact, the Apple board of 1985 was avoiding the most common sin for company boards - inaction in time of crisis.

So i expect you're right - they were making a good decision at the time.  Jobs had a few things to learn.

Boy did he learn those lessons well in his years away from Apple.  And in hindsight, i bet that Sculley and the others wish they could have found another solution, so they could have kept him with Apple somehow.

tokyogai
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Good lessons
tokyogai   8/26/2011 9:26:35 AM
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I think Steve's tips are good lessonsfor all of us who get too tied up in the day to day issues and lose sight of the real objectives. I do think, however, that Apple has a world class team and its future success does not depend on just having Steve there. While he is impossible to replace, there are other people with vision and insight. Teh future of Apple will depend on their ability to foster these people and to listen to what they have to say.

icebreaker1975
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Re: Good lessons
icebreaker1975   8/26/2011 4:54:33 PM
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His vision, insight and creativity was as integral part of the foundation of the massa appeal of the company.  it would probably take a team of people to accomplish the tasks that he did over the years.

icebreaker1975
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Can't doubt his genius
icebreaker1975   8/26/2011 10:09:14 AM
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What Jobs has done fro that company likely cannot be match and his creativity will be sorely missed.  Hopefully Tim Cook will be able to continue to lead the company in the right direction.

Value Hiker
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Re: Can't doubt his genius
Value Hiker   8/26/2011 12:56:40 PM
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The major part of Apple's success is that company created a new industry almost every 2-3 years. (ipod 2004, iphone 2007, and iPad 2009). At this fast speed of innovation, competitors had a hard time to catch up. It just like what happened at Cisco in 1990s.

The only way to maintain Apple's momentum is to innovate at fast speed. Tim Cook is a great COO, but we don't know he is a visionary or not. Apple can not maintain its current status by evolution, it needs revolution.

Without fast innovation, competitors will find it is easy to crush Apple, especially considering the high profit margin Apple has now on its product lines. It will be the simple repetition of Juniper/Netgear/Huawei against Cisco in 2010s.

 

ProfR
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Re: Can't doubt his genius
ProfR   8/26/2011 3:42:45 PM
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I agree that Apple needs to be innovative to succeed. I am not sure how this will work without Jobs. Jobs was the strategic leader and public face of Apple. I think Apple must quickly talk about its future so people see where they are going. 

Phoenix
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Re: Can't doubt his genius
Phoenix   8/27/2011 11:27:38 AM
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Yes. The standards set by Apple with Jobs at the helm are certainly very high. A revolutionary new innovation every two years, it really is amazing to think of it that way. It is going to be very difficult to maintain such a trend. You are right about competitors finding it difficult to keep up. That was Apple's strategic advantage. I'm not sure they are able to innovate at such a speed. Even if Apple continues to upgrade its products consumers would want more than that if they are going to pay a premium for Apple's products.

Value Hiker
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Re: Can't doubt his genius
Value Hiker   8/27/2011 6:13:23 PM
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Last week HP discontinued its touchpad & Pre3 product line. To everyone's surprise, the inventories were sold out almost overnight. At firesale price of $99/$149 for 16G/32G model, consumer just can't resist them. 

I bet most people know that touchpad is inferior to iPad 2, both hardware ( clunky & no 3G) and software ( A few people argued that WebOS is better than iOS). But at this price, HP can beat Apple hands down. 

For Android tablet manufacturers, the lesson is that there are mass of consumers who don't care much about the little difference between User Experience Apple touted, they just want good value.

 

Tenacious
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Re: Can't doubt his genius
Tenacious   8/28/2011 12:03:04 AM
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There is definitely a place for value in the equation. However, I'd also argue that Apple has done a great job of making its core users that they were getting value -- despite the high price tags. How did it do it? That's part of the Jobs legacy.

driven
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Re: Can't doubt his genius
driven   8/28/2011 12:16:40 AM
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The "value" from owner an Apple product relates to the intangible benefits of being connected, cutting-edge and part of an elite community of the smartest and best informed techies. I'm not saying its accurate--I'm saying Jobs & Co. made a lot of people believe it.

AskAsa
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Re: Can't doubt his genius
AskAsa   8/28/2011 12:09:03 PM
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I've always admired the elegance and simplicity of Apple products. That said, I find many of my purchasing decisons are now affected by cost. The cost vs value equation has beome more of an issue because of the recession. However, if I can justify multiple uses, or speed, convenience or ease of use, I still gravitate toward the Apple products,

AskAsa
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Re: Can't doubt his genius
AskAsa   8/28/2011 7:16:05 PM
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Jobs understood the value of making products ergonomically elegant. In blind tests people will often pick out the apple product because of a certain feel and ease of use. It's something testers often can't define but they certain can recognize it.

Street Smart
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Re: Can't doubt his genius
Street Smart   8/31/2011 9:36:18 AM
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Like every product Steve Jobs left his mark on at Apple, to me he also left his indelible mark on his resignation.  It is simple, elegant, clear and visionary.  God willing, he has many years in which to stay engaged in Apple's business affairs.  But if that is not the case, he will leave this world on HIS terms, with his boots on!

"To the Apple Board of Directors and the Apple Community:

I have always said if there ever came a day when I could no longer meet my duties and expectations as Apple’s CEO, I would be the first to let you know. Unfortunately, that day has come.

I hereby resign as CEO of Apple. I would like to serve, if the Board sees fit, as Chairman of the Board, director and Apple employee.

As far as my successor goes, I strongly recommend that we execute our succession plan and name Tim Cook as CEO of Apple.

I believe Apple’s brightest and most innovative days are ahead of it. And I look forward to watching and contributing to its success in a new role.

I have made some of the best friends of my life at Apple, and I thank you all for the many years of being able to work alongside you.

Steve"

 

philtheinvestor
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Re: Can't doubt his genius
philtheinvestor   9/4/2011 4:58:26 PM
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It's part of the reason why they have one of the greatest consumer followings. It's almost amazing that the repeat customer rate is so high, especially since their products are considered premiums in the markerplace.

mInvestor
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Embrace your mortality
mInvestor   8/27/2011 9:52:27 AM
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God, I do love this:

Almost everything -- all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure -- these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.


Besides othe thingks, Steve Jobs is also a phylosopher. He has a bueatiful mind.








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