Re: I DEMAND equal opportunity cupcake distribution
Dex
10/25/2011 6:39:03 PM
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Phoenix
10/25/2011 2:27:16 PM
I also feel it was a bit too risky to have kids there in the protests. You never know when things could turn ugly. The protests also seem to drag on and on without a clear focus. So many different agendas for a wide variety of causes have been put up and I think this creates too much confusion.
Re: I DEMAND equal opportunity cupcake distribution
Street Smart
10/25/2011 11:55:41 AM
Oh, @AskAsa, I love both of your quotes about the effects of the money running out on subsidized protest. Never heard either of them before, but both are SO true!
I completely agree with you that the days of wine and roses are numbered for the protesters. I came to the SF Bay Area in in 1970 (the so-called Summer of Love in the Haight-Ashbury was in 1967) and things were pretty ugly by then. But why do I think that when OWS's "vision" crumbles that they will blame the establishment for THAT, too?
Strikes me that we may be needing that Obamacare socialized medicine in the years to come. Just think of the monster therapy bills those cupcakeless kids are likely to rack up as they move into adulthood!
Re: I DEMAND equal opportunity cupcake distribution
Bargain Bin
10/25/2011 10:12:24 AM
All that is impressive, but I think the scrutiny is justified, considering what they started out as and what they've turned into. Let's be honest, they could use to be streamlined a little. Wall Street isn't exactly the right place to proest hyrdofracking.
Re: I DEMAND equal opportunity cupcake distribution
AskAsa
10/25/2011 10:02:06 AM
It can be Utopian right now because in the first month OWS received , $485000 donated by roughly 8000 individual, anonymous donors.
When the novelty of the situation and donations dry up it will turn dystopian fast.
As a British observer noted:
'The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money."
Find anyone who attended the Summer of Love in Haight Ashbury and ask them what happened when all the freebies were used up. There's an old saying "When the moneys gone - love flies out the window."
I have mingled with and like the OWS folks. But they are wasting major momentum by focusing on problems and offering little in the way of solutions.
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tokyogai
10/25/2011 9:00:29 AM
I agree- having kids there is a bad idea- it is just too unpredictable.
Re: I DEMAND equal opportunity cupcake distribution
Street Smart
10/25/2011 8:14:23 AM
One aspect of the Zuccotti Park experience that hasn't gotten much press is that it really seems like the protesters are working to create THEIR version of a utopian society. Sure, it's a little (OK, a lot) rough around the edges: A REAL utopia would include cupcakes for all and some NEW drum riffs every half hour or so...
But still, one can't help but be impressed by the hot meals, the medical tents, the library, the craft booths, the general spirit of the place--and the genuine sense of good spirit that has come to exist between the "residents," those who walk past as tourists or on their way to work, and the NYPD.
The problem such as it is, seems to come with the weight of expectation that the outside world is putting on the protesters to DO SOMETHING--or more accurately to do something MY WAY. It's that weight that will sink this thing, not the rain, not the lack of cupcakes, not the bad drumming.
Re: I DEMAND equal opportunity cupcake distribution
Jacob
10/25/2011 1:06:16 AM
Noreen, I don't think anything can be changed in one or two months. Everything has to be happen in its own course of time. Let time prove it….
Re: I DEMAND equal opportunity cupcake distribution
Bargain Bin
10/25/2011 12:48:43 AM
I'll personally ensure that Joe Klein ever eats a cupcake again.
Re: I DEMAND equal opportunity cupcake distribution
cat tail
10/25/2011 12:41:13 AM
You're right. They don't deserve anything. But neither does Joel Klein, just on the basis of his annoying use of big words.
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