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Bargain Bin
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Re: Hope the Kids Were in Bed for This One
Bargain Bin   10/28/2011 10:49:56 AM
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Sorry Street Smart, I'm a one trick pony :(

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Re: Hope the Kids Were in Bed for This One
Street Smart   10/27/2011 1:22:06 PM
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Very funny, @Bargain Bin!  Perfectly captures the complete absurdity that this entire thing is taking on.

For your encore, I want to hear "Fiddling While Europe Implodes."

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Re: Hope the Kids Were in Bed for This One
Bargain Bin   10/27/2011 12:49:57 PM
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"In fact, a group of about 200 headed back north again, running wildly through the streets as cops on motor scooters chased them."

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg

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Hope the Kids Were in Bed for This One
Street Smart   10/27/2011 10:48:27 AM
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Sounds like the demonstrators in New York City got pretty frisky last night in solidarity with the protests in Oakland, CA that resulted in over 100 arrests and tear gassing of the crowds earlier yesterday.

As I watched on the news last night, over 500 protesters left Zuccotti Park and took to the streets heading north, totally gridlocking traffic and resisting NYPD efforts to herd them onto the sidewalks.  In fact, a group of about 200 headed back north again, running wildly through the streets as cops on motor scooters chased them.

NOT very family friendly!  Hope the younguns were nowhere to be found for THIS particular activity!

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/nyregion/occupy-wall-street-march-to-support-oakland-protests.html

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Street Smart   10/27/2011 10:40:00 AM
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Really interesting editorial today from Nicholas Kristoff in the NY Times that comes at the level playing field argument from another angle.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/opinion/kristof-crony-capitalism-comes-homes.html?_r=1&ref=nicholasdkristof

Really made a lot of sense to me, and I highly recommend it.

 

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Re: I DEMAND equal opportunity cupcake distribution
PredictableChaos   10/27/2011 12:39:48 AM
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People aren't jealous and they don’t want privileges. They just want a level playing field, and they want Wall Street to give up its cheat codes

@Cat tail - I think we both have more empathy for the above quote from the Rolling Stone article than we do for just blaming the 1% for being wealthy.  

If the OWS protesters agreed with us, they would see that the playing field is made unfair by the people who make the rules.  And then the center of the protest would move to Washington DC.

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Re: I DEMAND equal opportunity cupcake distribution
cat tail   10/26/2011 4:08:18 PM
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I don't disagree. Perhaps I'm projecting what I sense from the sincere members of ows against the cluttered messages I've been hearing.

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Re: I DEMAND equal opportunity cupcake distribution
PredictableChaos   10/26/2011 3:00:14 PM
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@cat tail, must agree with @Street Smart on this one.  Rolling Stone lays out an interesting view that this should be about corruption and an unfair playing field, but this isn't what I see from OWS, which still seems to ooze greed and envy.

Why do I think so?  All the talk about 99% and 1% makes no distinction between rich people who've come by their money honestly versus those who profited from corruption.  So it's not about how they got so much money; it's about inequality and the fact that they have so much money.  For OWS, inequality is wrong and seems to be growing.

This is what makes the OWS cupcake incident so laughable.  The idea that cupcakes would be for only some - kids.  How can an OWS cupcake lady exclude anyone?

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Re: I DEMAND equal opportunity cupcake distribution
Street Smart   10/26/2011 12:52:11 PM
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@cat tail, I really enjoyed the Rolling Stone article.  Thanks so much for the link!  If memory serves, the author, Matt Taibbi, is the one who called Goldman Sachs "the great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money."

My only reaction is that Taibbi, rather than the OWS protesters, seems to be the one articulating the "all we want is a level playing field" arguments.  I find them really convincing.  I just wish I were more convinced that he wasn't putting words (however worthy) in their mouths.

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Re: I DEMAND equal opportunity cupcake distribution
cat tail   10/25/2011 6:58:22 PM
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Interesting post in rolling stone that debunks the myth ows is about jealousy of the rich. Rather it suggests the protests (at their core) are about dissent over a lot of dubious practices. Take a look and see what you think: http://m.rollingstone.com/entry/view/id/18620/pn/all/p/0/?KSID=a002561ed3218427c75326046495ddae&ints_viewed=1

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