Re: Whatever happened to...
AskAsa
6/12/2012 10:24:18 AM
Good question. OWS really seems to have lost momentum.
Whatever happened to...
Tenacious
6/12/2012 10:14:44 AM
Does Occupy Wall Street still exist?
Re: Hope the Kids Were in Bed for This One
philtheinvestor
10/30/2011 1:45:27 PM
Collective Bargaining Agreement = CBA. It was mentioned in a previous post and I was responding to the fact that when the time comes to renew or renegotiate CBA's, the worst in people comes out. A la the NFL & NBA, the public has become more aware of those negotiating evils.
Re: Hope the Kids Were in Bed for This One
driven
10/30/2011 10:31:45 AM
Call me stupid Phil--but what the heck do you mean?
Re: Hope the Kids Were in Bed for This One
driven
10/30/2011 10:31:10 AM
I've been thinking much the same--the protesters in their blazers and scarves don't exactly seem like they've been shopping at Walmart.
Re: Hope the Kids Were in Bed for This One
Dex
10/30/2011 10:25:30 AM
Class is difficult to define in these protests--a good portion of the protesters seem to be well educated, fairly wealthy individuals. I've walked through the park several times. It almost seems class lines are being drawn with some new dynamic I haven't quite determined.
Re: Hope the Kids Were in Bed for This One
philtheinvestor
10/29/2011 5:28:32 PM
CBA's don't work too well in pro sports... as we have seen over the past few months.
Class conflict is sadly lacking in a history of useful discussion. Relations between rich and poor are the only ones in civil society where the word 'strike' is in common usage.
The somewhat adversarial relationship between the ten articles and first ten amendments of the US constitution are an example of things politely being worked out. Even though it's still kind of a stand-off, when both sides abide by this document, things work out rather nicely.
Despite the long history of conflict, rich and poor somehow find ways to get along through collective bargaining and the ballot box. This assumes republican ideals prevail.
Re: Hope the Kids Were in Bed for This One
Street Smart
10/28/2011 4:42:38 PM
@Heinrich Coup-de-Suite, thanks for shedding some more light on the Oakland protest. I knew that it had involved a head injury via rubber bullet, but not the Iraq vet back story.
However, just because the fellow who was shot was a vet, doesn't mean he's not entitled to break the law. I have no idea if the cops acted responsibly or not, but if they did not, hopefully video exists and they will be quickly judged and disciplined.
As for the old adage of two wrongs not making a right, I don't like the idea of the NY OWS activists taking to the streets and recruiting bar patrons to swell their ranks as they worked their way north. That doesn't seem like a mission; it seems closer to a drunken brawl.
I certainly don't have all the answers but I think the longer the movement goes without providing at least a discussion framework, the more potential for dangerous misunderstanding there is.
People may not know that the Oakland incident referred to involved an Iraq war vet whose skull was fractured by a rubber bullet as police tried to disperse a march. I'm willing to find the humor in any situation, but the show of force on both sides I think should push people towards working for a resolution.
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