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Noreen Seebacher
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cost vs value
Noreen Seebacher   12/10/2011 12:39:57 AM
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The bottom line is that higher education should be a thoughtfully made decision, not something you do to please someone else or as a way to "have fun" at the risk of incurring unmanageable debt.

Drivewaygirl
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Re: college
Drivewaygirl   12/2/2011 12:13:49 PM
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I've had some excellent professors over time, and, yes, I've had some terrible ones too. It does seem like those who teach a "craft" like journalism or a "skill" like nursing are much better if they have had real world experience. But the flip side is this: some excellent professionals -- top of their fields, actually -- prove to be terrible teachers.

Just knowing information doesn't mean you know how to convey it.

AskAsa
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college
AskAsa   12/2/2011 9:14:10 AM
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He who can, does. He who cannot, teaches.

Man and Superman (1903) "Maxims for Revolutionists"

George Bernard Shaw.

How many people are teaching things they know little about? I've known journalism professors who came up through the ranks as teaching assistants. Many had never been in much less worked in a real print or broadcast city room.

One more reason cat tail is right --- it is a scam.

Noreen Seebacher
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Re: Protests
Noreen Seebacher   12/2/2011 8:54:39 AM
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We seem to have a speak first, think later mentality -- and it affects everyone (in the 99%, and the 1%)

Tenacious
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Re: Protests
Tenacious   12/2/2011 8:35:04 AM
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I don't mind complaints. But I'd like to see people complain AFTER they take the time to understand the facts of a situation. I'm tired of people protesting things they know nothing about, including $300 annual tuition increases.

Noreen Seebacher
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Re: Protests
Noreen Seebacher   12/2/2011 8:15:32 AM
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Acknowledged, Dex. While it's certainly the American way, the protesters have increasingly been getting in the way of other Americans who have, well, work to do. Or work to look for.

Dex
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Protests
Dex   12/2/2011 12:24:34 AM
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I've grown tired of protests--whether it's CUNY students, OWS or some labor union. I feel like I've fallen into the '60s, without the justification that fueled the dissent back then.

Noreen Seebacher
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Re: Scam
Noreen Seebacher   12/1/2011 5:54:48 PM
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Very well said!

cat tail
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Scam
cat tail   12/1/2011 5:34:32 PM
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The other problem with college, is the direction it has taken. Some countries start students on a career path in high school, and they stick through it through college. I'm not saying this is the best method; but the way it's becoming in America- high school round two is just not productive. Students end up switching "majors" sometime in their first two years, before they even have a chance to take any classes related to their major because the first two years are filled with "General Education" classes--yes, the same ones that high school was supposed to cover.

At the end of the day, it's a business. The worst part is that these schools can do whatever they want, to prolong graduation--faculty will encourage the (already babied gen y) students to "take their time" and "enjoy college while you can", universities can change graduation requirements without warning. Why do students continue? The stigma attached to not having a college degree is too great. These days, it's becoming unacceptable to not have a masters degree.

My point--College is the perfect scam.

Value Hiker
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Re: Ivy League candidates
Value Hiker   12/1/2011 5:25:57 PM
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The easy way to tell the difference between these two groups of people is: counting how many times they mention their schools.

Spoiled fraud is eager to tell everyone where he went for college, because attending the school is the few things he can bragged about.

Brillant people usually made so many achievements in their lives, they don't think it is something they have to mention to everyone.

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