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Noreen Seebacher
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Debt
Noreen Seebacher   12/5/2011 7:09:28 AM
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Funny to think a many who earns $1.8 million doing anything still needs to buy jewelry on credit.

Drivewaygirl
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Re: Debt
Drivewaygirl   12/5/2011 9:00:56 AM
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Perhaps the need for credit increases in proportion to the number of spouses/lovers/f***buddies that one has...

ProfR
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Lobbying
ProfR   12/5/2011 8:29:44 AM
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As much as I dislike people in government service going into lobbying that is the career path for many. So I am not sure we can beat up on Newt for that.

I think the question is does he have any ideas on how to fix the mess we are in? Can he convince others to follow his lead...

Dex
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Re: Lobbying
Dex   12/5/2011 8:57:33 AM
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The challenge with Newt, as with Mitt, is to determine what what we're following. These guys have not impressed me with their consistency.

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Re: Lobbying
cat tail   12/5/2011 8:59:25 AM
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With all of Gingrich's warmth and wit. I'm going to venture "No."

ProfR
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Re: Lobbying
ProfR   12/5/2011 10:02:05 AM
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And that is the real problem - it is difficult to find good candidates that want to run and difficult to find candidates that have a solid plan for what to do if they are elected.

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Is the the best they have?
tokyogai   12/5/2011 8:40:28 AM
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In light of all of this fodder that would seem to be major weaknesses for Newt, I wonder why he is the frontrunner ( this week).? I would think that if the Republicans really want to have a chance at winning the next election that they could find somebody better to field as a candidate? The fact that they are having such difficulty in finding a really good candidate does not speak well for this election.

PAW
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Re: Is the the best they have?
PAW   12/5/2011 2:20:20 PM
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I am confused by Newt's recent surge in popularity too.  To me, he represents "business as usual" as evidenced by his side hussel with Freddie.  I don't see him as offering any new ideas or solutions to the nation's problems.

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Re: Is the the best they have?
Scott Raynovich   12/5/2011 4:20:33 PM
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Interesting that Bill Clinton predicted about a month ago that Newt would surge:

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Bill-Clinton-Praises-Newt/2011/11/26/id/419143

cat tail
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Re: Is the the best they have?
cat tail   12/5/2011 5:34:25 PM
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Both Clinton and Gingrich are smart guys. And I, too, was impressed with Newt's stand on immigration. However, he has a tendency to lean toward arrogance, and is actually at his best when he is not on the top of the pack. It seems like the minute he gets the lead, he starts demonstrating that characteristic pretentiousness and basically begins whittling away his support. People may not "like" Mitt but they don't hate him. And at times, they really hate Newt. So it speaks to Clinton's good judgement that he "stopped short of predicting that Gingrich would win the nomination."


tokyogai
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Re: Is the the best they have?
tokyogai   12/6/2011 9:24:51 AM
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I agree. I just don't get it. maybe he is only getting his 15 minutes as Republican front runner.

Scott Raynovich
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Re: Is the the best they have?
Scott Raynovich   12/6/2011 10:45:11 AM
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Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney? Really? Is that the best the Repubs can do?

PAW
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Re: Is the the best they have?
PAW   12/6/2011 1:52:49 PM
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It is a bit of a sad lot.  As much as I perfer a Republican be in the Whitehouse, the choices are disappointing.

Broadway
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Re: Is the the best they have?
Broadway   12/6/2011 2:46:34 PM
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Scott, this IS the best the Republicans can do given that their primary process favors ideology over policy, ideology over real-world solutions. They are a party of lithmus tests. If Newt wins the nomination, he will get smashed in a general election because of his many personal liabilities and his big mouth (really, even mention labor child??)....unless there is massive voter fraud or even more massive public hypnosis.

back2basicz
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Re: Is the the best they have?
back2basicz   12/7/2011 9:39:58 AM
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Broadway,

You are quite right here.

Unless we see Ron Paul somehow overhauling Newt,the Republicans are stuck with Newt Gingrich;who will Lose to Obama in a free and fair election.

Now with Mitt Romney as good as gone(thanks to his cover-ups as Governor);there is a strong outside chance that Ron Paul could win the Iowa caucus.Hopefully that should give him as much publicity as he really deserves(the media have made it a point of boycotting him & not without due reason as he threatens the status quo).

Regards

Ashish.

Noreen Seebacher
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Re: Is the the best they have?
Noreen Seebacher   12/6/2011 8:12:56 PM
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Ah, but there is Michelle too. And she knows more than any of the candidates. She said so today on morning TV.

driven
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Sign me up
driven   12/5/2011 9:06:09 AM
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I can learn a lot of history if someone wants to pay me $1.8 million.

back2basicz
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Re: Sign me up
back2basicz   12/7/2011 11:36:20 AM
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Driven,

My sentiments exactly. That is way-way too much money for a Historian and especially one who did his thesis in Belgian education history in the Congo...

I guess thats why Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are broke today and totally on the taxpayer dole.

So many things so wrong about our system today.A lot of cleansing is required today.Will we get it before everything just totally breaks down??? I dunno.But I am not holding out hope either.

Regards

Ashish.

Noreen Seebacher
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Where's the humanity?
Noreen Seebacher   12/5/2011 11:56:18 AM
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The recurring complaint we hear about Newt is his coldness and detachment. Perhaps this explains his multiple marriages, his failed relationships.

In a piece in the NYT today, Adam Hochschild writes about Newt's 1971 Tulane doctoral dissertation: “Belgian Education Policy in the Congo 1945-1960.” 

The writer who emerges from the text is not the fire-breathing, slash-and-burn partisan attacker Mr. Gingrich’s critics portrayed from his time as House speaker, nor the profound, big-picture thinker Mr. Gingrich the candidate presents himself as. It’s the desk-bound policy wonk. ... Part of the wonkery is the absence of any human detail. ... Absent Congolese voices and lives, the dissertation is as dry as a stale biscuit.

Scott Raynovich
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Re: Where's the humanity?
Scott Raynovich   12/5/2011 12:05:12 PM
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Belgian Education Policy in the Congo 1945-1960.”

LOL! that sounds like a barn-burner... maybe I'll pick it up next time I have insomnia.


back2basicz
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Re: Where's the humanity?
back2basicz   12/7/2011 11:52:59 AM
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Noreen,

Maybe that is precisely what we need to turn around this ship called the US of A.

After all,we had Obama who was all Mr Touchy-feely and campaigned on a platform of "Change "-We all know how that turned out.

A Policy wonk who has a real head for numbers and especially the scale of the task facing the US of A would be very,very helpful today.

Won't it?

Ashish.

Noreen Seebacher
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Re: Where's the humanity?
Noreen Seebacher   12/7/2011 12:19:07 PM
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Well, perhaps...but there is that little thing about his seeming desire for a war with Iran.

back2basicz
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Re: Where's the humanity?
back2basicz   12/7/2011 12:26:44 PM
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Noreen,

One can always hope...

Maybe that(Attacking Iran) is part of his sales-pitch to get the Repub Nomination and once he actually wins the Big Prize he will decide against it and pursue the route of more sanctions and "dialogue".

After all,Iran needs a lot more softening up before its ready to be crushed like Iraq was[Even Gingrich knows that...]

Hopefully that softening wil go on till 2016...Beyond that who knows how things will turn out...

Ashish.

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Re: Where's the humanity?
AskAsa   12/7/2011 1:01:45 PM
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I'm no fan of Obama, but I do think politicians in the US need to have a certain level of warmth to be effective. The president with the highest approval rating at this point in his term of office was, i believe, Eisenhower -- not Calvin Coolidge,

erierunner
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There has to be one
erierunner   12/5/2011 8:45:29 PM
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I know the reward of doing the job will never be a true reward other than serving your country but I just don't understand why we can't find a true business person that runs a successful company, legitimately, to do the same for the country.  As big as an ass Mark Cuban is at times, give someone like him the steering wheel to the country.  Run it like a business, be a jerk at times because you need to be, and make a profit.  There are people that have done it time and time again for various businesses but somehow we continuously get stuck with these political morons. 

Bullseye
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Who wants another G.W. Bush in office?
Bullseye   12/6/2011 2:02:43 PM
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In my opinion Newt is just another G.W. but speaks better. He wants to attack Iran. Who's going to pay for that war? A political lobbyist can change history if he succeeds. Now that he got Cain out of the way he may win. God bless us all.

Scott Raynovich
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The Problem with Repubs
Scott Raynovich   12/6/2011 3:37:31 PM
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Broadway,

You're right, ideology gets the best of them...

I am an avowed independent. In the past I have voted for Democrats, Republicans, and Libertarians. I'll vote for anybody that has a reasonable amount of common sense. That seems to be lacking these days.

I would vote for the right Republican candidate if they weren't controlled by a wide-range of extremists who insist on a gun-toting white macho man who thinks we can function with a 2% flat tax rate while we invade every country on earth while never over-hauling Social Security. This is simply not feasible, nor does it help the budget problems.

Also, I like business, but that doesn't that mean that the President has to be a wonky stock-option lovin', Wall Street-back-slapping, tax loophole-loving megaolomaniac.

Give us some reasonable candidates... please.

 

 

back2basicz
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Re: The Problem with Repubs
back2basicz   12/7/2011 9:48:44 AM
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Scott,

You know what needs to be done.We need to see a total debt default by the state in America(we are at best 2 years away from that event).

Once we get such a momentous event all the excesses of this debt laden era will get washed away.

Just time to fasten your seatbelts and wait for this event to occur.After all,if there is no easy money/cheap debt how are Poliicans gonna propose all the nonsensical things (Spend-Spend-Spend)they are proposing today???

Regards

Ashish.

Scott Raynovich
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Re: The Problem with Repubs
Scott Raynovich   12/7/2011 1:16:41 PM
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Ashish,

Be careful what you wish for. I would hope there was a less extreme solution -- history has shown there are ways to work around this. Unfortunately our politicians don't look like they are up to the task.

I am, however, afraid you are correct. Given what has happened in Europe and that we have similar problems should be a warning sign to all.

--scott

back2basicz
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Re: The Problem with Repubs
back2basicz   12/7/2011 1:39:10 PM
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Scott,

I know why you are worried[Looking at things from a historical perspective there is plenty of reason to be worried].But right now is not the time to worry but to be prepared for this eventual and momentous change.

When the change does happen we don't want to be caught completely unawares.

Regards

Ashish.

Broadway
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Re: The Problem with Repubs
Broadway   12/7/2011 2:53:23 PM
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Change isgiven in history, but seems to be accelerating nowadays. It is why it is more important than ever to have leaders who can improvise and innovate, who are NOT dictating by partisan dogma and "pledge".

Heinrich Coup-de-Suite
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Re: The Problem with Repubs
Heinrich Coup-de-Suite   12/7/2011 3:34:26 PM
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Republicans tend to view "leaders" as proven capitalists, the way Ayn Rand did.  Successful political candidates on the other hand tend to be cheerleaders for those leaders, and champions of their causes in the military sense.  As a result, expect Republican, and to a great extent Democratic, holders of office to follow a very narrow script.

Broadway
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Re: The Problem with Repubs
Broadway   12/7/2011 9:22:54 PM
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Heinrich, you're thinking of traditional republicans, the ones from the old boys' network at the country club and from Wall. St. and Big Oil. You are failing to take into account the effect that the social conservatives and the Tea Partiers have had on the Republican party. They don't want capitalists anymore, they want "patriots" who will sign anti-tax pledges and promise to kill the Fed and uphold every single letter of the constitution, including a fetus' right to life and the LGBT community's right to go back undercover.

Heinrich Coup-de-Suite
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Re: The Problem with Repubs
Heinrich Coup-de-Suite   12/7/2011 10:37:11 PM
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I would've thought the new guard is cut from the same cloth, but I'll agree the political theater has been ratcheted up to a dazzling pitch.  Shock and awe brought home, really.

back2basicz
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Re: The Problem with Repubs
back2basicz   12/8/2011 4:34:49 AM
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Broadway,

Not a novel thought.But it works.

Improvisation of leaders is essential today but the only issue is for that the leaders need to have a worked in full-scale commercial/capitalistic environment.

How many politicians/republican candidates can lay claim to that issue today?

Ashish.

Broadway
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Re: The Problem with Repubs
Broadway   12/8/2011 3:43:15 PM
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The whole elected leader as business executive is a myth that the business leaders use to attack politicians that they don't and so they say, that guy doesn't have enough biz experience. How dare he raise corporate taxes and regulation!

back2basicz
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Re: The Problem with Repubs
back2basicz   12/9/2011 2:20:46 AM
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Broadway,

Maybe I phrased things incorrectly here.

Here's a thought -Politicians should have a range of experience(both Public and Private) doing something really constructive before running for the White House.

Does that work?

What do you think about this issue now?

Regards

Ashish.

 

 

AskAsa
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Re: The Problem with Repubs
AskAsa   12/9/2011 7:52:49 AM
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I think someone with a range of experience, along with an inherently innovative spirit and the strength of character to stand by his/her beliefs is the ideal candidate for office. Now if we could only find one...

back2basicz
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Re: The Problem with Repubs
back2basicz   12/9/2011 11:04:32 AM
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Askasa,

Do you know anyone with those qualities who is campaigning for the Presidential elections?

If you do or know anyone who has those qualities maybe we can push him for 2012 or even 2016???

Regards

Ashish.

 

Noreen Seebacher
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Independent
Noreen Seebacher   12/6/2011 8:10:53 PM
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I'm an independent too. I dislike everyone -- without regard to political party.

Scott Raynovich
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Re: Independent
Scott Raynovich   12/6/2011 8:14:43 PM
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"I'm an independent too. I dislike everyone -- without regard to political party."

Ha!


back2basicz
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Re: Independent
back2basicz   12/7/2011 9:34:09 AM
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Noreen,

I love your affiliation!!! I have a feeling more and more voters are starting to fall in the same boat.After all,is there really that much difference between both parties to merit a vote in the first place.

The level of apathy setting in is appalling and worrying,especially for those who still believe in Democracy.

The question of whether my Vote matters today is being asked with greater and greater frequency all through Democratic countries Globally;such is the level of disillusionment that has set in with the status quo.

Regards

Ashish.





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