Re: Re : Who Says Making a Pie Is Easy?
Scott Raynovich
12/20/2011 7:13:13 AM
I have more sympathy for the teachers than the aforementioned $180,000 SEC regulators who couldn't catch Bernie Madoff
Re: Re : Who Says Making a Pie Is Easy?
Broadway
12/20/2011 7:04:27 AM
minvestor, green movements "costing" billions? Food and drug safety regulations also probably "cost" billions, but are they worth it? There are some "costs" that industry must take on to ensure that their operations don't cause more harm than good, right? So then do they become costs of doing business, operational costs, or regulatory costs in your mind?
Also, the reason that people get so upset by how much teachers and professors make is because there are so many people without work or working at multiple crap part-time jobs barely making ends meet.
Re: Re : Who Says Making a Pie Is Easy?
Scott Raynovich
12/19/2011 10:50:05 PM
Yes, this is a classic rant in the vein of Dennis Miller.
Re: Re : Who Says Making a Pie Is Easy?
mInvestor
12/19/2011 9:35:33 PM
Fred,
Always enjoy reading your article. But seldom saw 45 comments happend in just 3 days. It's obvious you touched a nerve.
Perceptions and facts don't always match, you provided several great examples. But here people most talked is just salaries, teachers' salaries. The unemployment rate is supposed to be a bigger factor to our country and most people. Green movements are also costing billons of dollars. Well, Perceptions and facts don't always match... hehehe...
BTW, I also enjoy Michael Chrinton's books.
Re: Re : Who Says Making a Pie Is Easy?
Scott Raynovich
12/19/2011 4:57:48 PM
Re: Re : Who Says Making a Pie Is Easy?
Jacob
12/19/2011 2:40:00 AM
making or earning a single pie is difficult. In this world nothing comes free or nobody is going to offer a single pie free. Everything is attached with a price tag. So the best option is how we can save such valuable pies, instead of unwanted spending. There is an old say "Spending money wisely is difficult than earning it."
Re: Re : Who Says Making a Pie Is Easy?
Broadway
12/18/2011 9:36:09 PM
Fair enough re: teachers. I agree that they should be held to some sort of performance-based review and that "tenure" for K-12 public school teachers is no longer a viable system. I think the "political correctness" tide is turning against teachers
Re: Re : Who Says Making a Pie Is Easy?
Fred Goodman
12/18/2011 6:20:31 PM
Fair compensation for teachers does not mean they should be paid twice as much as the people paying them, ie. the taxpayers.
Wouldn't it be a wonderful world if you could equate salary with performance. Unfortunately public school teachers receive union scale regardless of their performance. Good teachers should be paid much more and the poor ones fired. However, poor teachers cannot be fired except in the most egregious cases of neglect or moral terpitude.
When I found my daughter was completing her homework in the car as her mother drove her the 3 miles from her public school to our home I took both children out of the system and at great financial sacrifice sent them to private school.
In some parts of the country homeschooling is made difficult by the imposition of paperwork burdens on parents and by imposing tests far more stringent than those imposed on public school attendees. Lobbying efforts by teacher's unions have made it far more difficult.
Why were the vouchers for charter schools eliminated in Washington DC in March 2009? I recommend the John Stossel youtube special before making up your mind.
Re: Re : Who Says Making a Pie Is Easy?
Broadway
12/18/2011 3:05:00 PM
Not sure if you're finding fault with public school teachers earning more than people might assume, Fred. As a parent, I want my kids' teachers earning their fair share. After all, they are with my children more during a weekday than I am. Makes sense they should be fairly compensated and content at work to me.
Besides, if people are so upset by teachers and professors earning so much, then don't send your kids to top-flight colleges and home school them k-12. Then the "market" will sort it all out, right?
Re: Re : Who Says Making a Pie Is Easy?
driven
12/18/2011 12:26:32 PM
Not satellite radio, Scott -- but satellites and radio. From a historical standpoint, radio has played a vital role in terms of pre-Internet information distribution. And satellites helped make the world a smaller place by bringing nearly live updates possible from almost anywhere
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