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back2basicz
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Re: Not Black & White
back2basicz   1/23/2012 8:54:21 AM
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Scott,

Great points all,I agree wholeheartedly.

The Internet is in Equal measure a threat and in Equal Measure an Oppurtunity.

The Writers Guild(and other related organizations) has to decide what is what.

Regards

Ashish.

back2basicz
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Re: Not Black & White
back2basicz   1/23/2012 8:51:25 AM
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PC,

Good points both of them,but the way I look at it is that it is more Point No.2 in your case.

Google,Wiki,Facebook,et all have become exactly what Conventional media was before 2000s.The Goliaths who can make or break Governments and politicians with utmost ease today.

The reason is simple-Its our fault(Us Users) we by discouraging active competition in this space have encouraged each of these goliaths to become too powerful and hold so much control over our individual lives.

It also is a matter of grave concern that most people who acted and went onto their representatives in Congress went only after the blackouts executed by this group.It clearly shows how addicted we as a society have become to these websites.

Regards

Ashish.

back2basicz
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Re: Not Black & White
back2basicz   1/23/2012 8:42:01 AM
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Fred,

Not disputing anything that you say here

The Internet has totally changed the way the entire Business model of Journalism works today.

Journalism is not the only industry that has been affected but its one which affects the hacks(the people who write) the most,hence you can hear them complaining the most.

But what they fail to appreciate is that it has made the industry more open and honest(especially for newcomers out there).

Take the case of Joey Naddeo from IU itself.He's a Journalism major drop-out but still doing quite well for himself.Check out his blogs here

http://www.investoruprising.com/author.asp?section_id=1563&doc_id=238032&

Would he be able to generate even half the income he has generated here in the Non-Internet world we had before 2000???

I don't think so.

People who are flexible and adaptable are the ones who are most likely to be able to change to new market trends and realities today.Not ones who constantly crib about the Good ol' days and how things are'nt fair anymore.

Regards

Ashish.

Noreen Seebacher
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Re: "old media"
Noreen Seebacher   1/21/2012 6:31:23 PM
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$20? That much?

AskAsa
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AskAsa   1/21/2012 6:21:32 PM
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I heard about some recording artists who have dealt with piracy in creative ways. When it's discovered a fan is distributing bootleg copies of their concerts they track the person down and offer to post the recording on the artist's site and share some of the profits with the bootlegger. The artist enhances the pirate copy with noise reduction and better dynamic range and then offers it as a newly discovered "live recording." While some of this seems like paying the barbarians not to attack your city - it can be argued that taking a pirate copy off the streets and getting even 50% is better than letting it float around for free.

AskAsa
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"old media"
AskAsa   1/21/2012 6:03:39 PM
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The easy and free access to other people's original content has also managed to reduce respect for  the creators of content. Excellent writers are now offered $20.00 for articles that used to pay $200.00. Many photographers are offered a credit line as payment. These practices are fine when someone is starting out and building a name but offering an established writer nothing is a slap in the face. When the pros complain they are often told they are acting like "old media."

Broadway
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Re: Not Black & White
Broadway   1/21/2012 3:02:54 PM
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PredictableChaos, let's not be naive. I think it's more of number 2 in your dichotomy, if not all number 2. Corporations or at least big money from someplace dictates which way the political wind blows. OWS was against this state of "democracy" in our country ... which is why they had less or little success. They were butting heads against the big money. And to paraphrase a famous song, "I fought the corporations, and the corporations won."

Fred Goodman
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Re: Not Black & White
Fred Goodman   1/21/2012 1:18:59 PM
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From my standpoint as a blogger with a paid subscription site who contributes freely at no cost to other sites it is a no-brainer. Without the free sites I would have two paid subscribers and they would both be relatives.

Being available to be read by thousands at no cost to them still requires that I make an effort to produce something of value if I want to interest them in my paid site. It is fair and it is what makes the internet of value.

So boo hoo, get a life. To those who think they are being exploited, just stop writing blogs and write a book.

Phoenix
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Re: Not Black & White
Phoenix   1/20/2012 9:04:40 PM
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@predictablechaos It sure seems that way. It is a bit scary to note how much power google, wiki and a few other sites actually wield. We have had a few examples of how powerful the Internet was with the toppling of entire regimes. The question is how can one set limits to what they could do? I suppose it now rests on how internet users decide to react to a given message but couldn't it be biased towards the agendas of the said Internet giants?

tanstafl6
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Interesting link in this article
tanstafl6   1/20/2012 6:00:58 PM
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Piracy & Profit: The Other Side of the Coin 

Indicates that piracy has been shown to increase sales of the pirated material.  Marvin, maybe you should follow the examples in this article and pirate your own works and quatriple your sales... what do you think??

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