Re: Speak much evil, write much evil, but don't listen to Rush
Noreen Seebacher
3/13/2012 7:25:54 AM
Hi Fred,
For the record, I did listen to these comments in their entirety. It wasn't just the s-word. It was the follow-up comments that made them over the top. I don't hear many nightly TV shows suggesting what these words suggested.
And while I agree the comments about Ms Palin were also wrong, she is a public figure. This young woman is not. That seems to be the distinction.
Re: Speak much evil, write much evil, but don't listen to Rush
Fred Goodman
3/12/2012 9:02:17 PM
I couldn't agree more. And I'm certain that you noticed that I did not express support for Rush, only criticism for quoting his detractors rather than quoting him directly, and taking as fact the words printed about him rather than taking the time to find out if they are accurate. I also am critical of hiding one's affiliations and biases when making comments on this or any website.
However, now that you have raised the issue of behavior, I would like to mention that when Michael Richards used the N-word in responding to hecklers at his comedy show he was rightly admonished and we have never seen him again in public.
A little different treatment was afforded Bill Maher, also a comedian, when he used the C-word against Sarah Palin or commented that her Down Syndrome baby was a result of her having sex with John Edwards. Why, he wasn't even criticized by the President who seemed to be okay with permitting his action committee to accept a $1 million contribution from Maher.
And yet the President was so mortified with Rush using language for which he apologized that he actually called Ms. Fluke to console her and assure her that her parents should be proud. I didn't hear of him calling Sarah Palin to console her.
I also should mention that the words used by Rush, while wrong and unnecessary, appears nightly on network TV while those used by Maher are rightfully banned.
Re: Speak much evil, write much evil, but don't listen to Rush
BigJim
3/12/2012 8:37:54 PM
I think we can all agree - political parties notwithstanding - that civilized adults should not call each other vile names. Broadcasters should not castigate coeds for their alleged promiscuity, comedians should not target the children of public figures for their actions or handicaps.
Public figures should expect a certain amount of ridicule and abuse. But I feel we can criticize without resorting to four letter words, even when speaking about actual public figures like politicians or entertainers.
In my mind, there is no excuse for calling a private citizen, like some kid who dares to speak at a hearing, or who happened to have been born to a politician, anything at all. At best, I might say I disagree with the kid who testified, and then speak to the issues. But I'd never go beyond that and use four letter words. It's just not how I was brought up.
Speak much evil, write much evil, but don't listen to Rush
Fred Goodman
3/12/2012 3:41:48 PM
Mr. Kitman admits that he does not listen to Rush and so we must be aware that his well thought out response is a response not to Rush but to his critics, many of whom also admit that they do not listen.
As one who does listen to Rush I wonder how many of the four authors of the 15 comments posted so far also listen to the program. I for one do not fit the posted demographics very well, although I am old.
I must also wonder if the fact that Mr. Kitman has made it a point in 5 of his reports between 9/12 and 11/28 to state that he is a registered Republican means that he looks at the world as they do or that he is just too lazy to register with the people who think as he writes. A search of this website reveals the words "registered Republican" have only been used just 5 times and always by Mr. Kitman.
Strange indeed that he is so critical of Rush Limbaugh, an avowed Republican, and so uncritical of anything or anyone of a different persuasion. Could it be that Mr. Kitman doest protest too much?
In an attempt to be as open as Mr. Kitman, I will report proudly that I am a registered independent because I have disdain for both parties. However, I am not ashamed to say that my leanings are Conservative, although I do not fit the conventional description of a Conservative. But then again, I don't know anyone who does fit the description foisted upon the public by the media.
Re: The average Rush viewer is:
TelecomFreq
3/12/2012 12:56:57 PM
Yeah, it was a big shock to me, I had always assumed his listners would be mostly white males who might have graducated high school at best... proved me very wrong.
Yes, so much for the thought that education expands your mind, right?
Re: The average Rush viewer is:
TelecomFreq
3/12/2012 12:38:03 PM
@Noreen, as one side as his viership numbers are, I am not really surprised by them, well the only one that is kind of shocking to me is how many are college educated.
Ok, so the average Rush viewer, according to Quantcast, is an older, white, college educated, affluent, childless male. Not sure that fits the target description of an IT guy, nor is it necessarily the sweetest demographic for advertisers -- which may help explain why so many of them are rethinking their relationships. I realize he still has volume, but there are a lot of factors to consider here.
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