@Broadway, the issue of tribal jurisdiction is both complex and fascinating. While winnings are certainly taxed per IRS regulations -- you know they got that in right from the start! -- the tribal courts have retained specified powers over both civil and select criminal cases.
The District III Wisconsin Court of Appeals ruled on recently, that a man cannot sue a Native American tribe for a slip and fall accident on the tribe's property. Court records indicate the man was visiting the Pine Hills Golf Course and Supper Club in Gresham, Wisconsin, in 2008 when he slipped and fell in an icy parking lot. The man was injured in the slip and fall accident, and had to be hospitalized.
Actually, it did not work out this way for a teacher at my kids school. Her elderly mom fell at Foxwoods and she fell under tribal law. She could not get an attorney to sue -- and the state of Connecticut agreed the liability issue was not covered by state insurance regs. So tread carefully. I assume some locations differ from others. My personal knowledge is about Foxwoods.
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Broadway
4/2/2012 9:47:50 PM
@Noreen, although you technically are under the law of the tribe whose property you're on, I can guarantee that you would be treated equally if you slipped and fell in Foxwoods than if you slipped and fell in Caesars Palace in Vegas. The casino owners would do all they could do to comp the heck out of you so you didn't sue. If you were an employee and hurt yourself at Foxwoods, I can all but guarantee, again, that you would be protected with workers' comp afterward. It is a complex sovereignty issue, but Native American gaming companies still buy insurance to protect themselves from the same risks that "regular" casinos try to mitigate.
Re: Dollars and Sense
driven
4/2/2012 1:54:39 PM
I wonder about the market for casinos, too. Are there an infinite number of gamblers? Or will we rapidly reach a saturation point? And if there is gambling on Main Street, what happens to Las Vegas? Does it lose its allure?
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cat tail
4/2/2012 12:32:18 PM
is that really true, @Noreen?
Here's something interesting about going to a native American run facility like Foxwoods in Connecticut. What you may not realize -- but should -- is that you are stepping off the US when you step on the casino grounds. So if you have a nasty slip and fall from a poorly designed walkway in the casino entry -- an accident that would net you a handsome settlement in most public facilities -- do not expect the same insurance benefits or even the same right to sue the facility. The case will be handled according to tribal law, and that law could be very different from US law.
Let me play devil's advocate.
I always marvel at the ability of nail salons to (apparently) reproduce at rates that exceed what seems like the ability of the population to support them, I mean, how many people really need a mani-pedi?
Now, apply that same logic to casinos. Sure, there are high rollers. But that is a small sub-sect of gamblers. Then there are the gamblers who have gambling addictions. Hopefully, that is just a sub-sect too. Then there is the vast majority, who can take it or leave it -- the group for whom a casino is fun as a novelty. I enjoy stopping in a casino once a year. For maybe an hour, on my way to dinner or a show. That's it.
I live 10 minutes from the Yonkers racino, and I have never bothered to stop in.
The point is, if gambling is as common as six-packs of beer, will it have the same appeal? or will all but the top tier casinos turn into one more sad form of quasi-entertainment for the desperate and addicted?
Well, there you go then, @tokyogai! Seems like casinos would be a godsend for Buffalo and other areas that draw from Canada. Didn't know about the Destiny project--whoa! I remember that the outlet malls around Buffalo were impressive but not "biggest in the world" caliber.
As for the Adirondacks, they can use all the economic help they can get. There may be a problem because the lands there are conservatory lands dedicated to remaining "forever wild." Don't know if that definition applies to casino gambling or not (!) but some of the recreational areas such as Lake George, Lake Placid and Lake Champlain would seem to be naturals.
Re: Dollars and Sense
tokyogai
4/2/2012 9:08:13 AM
They draw a lot from Canada, for a host of reasons. I just saw a figure that more than 1M flights per year from Buffalo have Canadians on board, due to the lower prices in the states. In Syracuse, they are building a huge ( largest in the world shopping mall called Destiny) center to draw Canadians. I see no reason NY would not draw many Canadians to casinos. It is closer and lower cost than going to Vegas.
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