We can only hope that Winston Churchill was right...
"Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other possibilities."
--Winston Churchill
Re: Safe to say...
chapAnjou
4/22/2012 1:23:34 PM
"I think we have. We focus so much on minutiae -- small details of a person's personal life. What outstanding person has not made mistakes, and wants to be subjected to that kind of scrutiny?"
@driven, as much as I harp on about politicians being clowns, I actually agree with this statement. I think the one issue though is that if you're going to allow this person to make important decisions to impact multiple people, then this person should also be able to make good decisions that positively impact the people who are part of their daily lives.
Re: Safe to say...
chapAnjou
4/22/2012 11:43:32 AM
"Have we created a political system that discourages the best people from getting involved, leaving us with mediocrity?"
@Noreen, I don't know if it's a function of our political system as much as it being a function of the type of people who have political aspirations. *cynical alert* I honestly wonder how many people get involved in politics with the sole thought of "I want to make people's lives better" or if it's just more of a "I hate such and such and want to do something about it". They may seem like the same thought process but in essence one is about the people and the other is a self-serving desire.
Re: Safe to say...
chapAnjou
4/22/2012 11:40:06 AM
"What did they expect after election. Would the new president (whoever he/she is) just pull a magic solution at that time? To solve this hugh debt problem, it's going to be a long term process."
@mInvestor, it certainly seems like they're expecting some magical solution to just manifest itself and it's this kind of backwards thinking that's going to ensure we're in debt for generations to come (if not forever). Solving the debt problem is a long term process but ONLY if there's a legitimate plan to bring in more money than we're spending...which seems like it's impossible when we're allowing pols to go on weekend benders on the taxpayer's dime.
I know I would think very long and extra hard before agreeing to run for even a minor office.
Re: Safe to say...
driven
4/22/2012 1:24:15 AM
I think we have. We focus so much on minutiae -- small details of a person's personal life. What outstanding person has not made mistakes, and wants to be subjected to that kind of scrutiny?
Have we created a political system that discourages the best people from getting involved, leaving us with mediocrity?
Re: Safe to say...
mInvestor
4/21/2012 7:10:53 PM
@chapAnjou,
Can't agree more. I just don't understand why congress'd have raised debt ceiling in the last year and hoped it'd be dealt with after election. What did they expect after election. Would the new president (whoever he/she is) just pull a magic solution at that time? To solve this hugh debt problem, it's going to be a long term process. They can't just kick the can down the road and hide their heads in sand. Talking about leadership everyday, but no politican ever shows any so far.
Re: Growing deficits
chapAnjou
4/20/2012 1:26:35 PM
"Well Leon Panetta spent $870,000 of it flying between Washington and his California home in a government plane, the WSJ reported today. He reimbursed the govt. only $630 or 2% of the cost of each of the $30,000 taxpayer funded trips."
Reading stuff like this makes me sick to my stomach. I just don't get how this type of spending is allowed to go unpunished! Furthermore, is it possible to find a politician who isn't a complete clown?
Re: Deficit is now 9% of GDP
chapAnjou
4/20/2012 1:24:40 PM
"paternalistic entitlement society" with "a bunch of people sitting on a couch, waiting for their next government check" -- something he expects "will not just bankrupt us financially, it will bankrupt us morally..."
@noreen, Christie's comments make absolutely no sense to me. I know it's sort of out of context, but his comments sound like he's blaming the voters for voting in these spending pols. The problem is still that the pols are spending money and are solely responsible for the money they spend.
What I mean is, say you have a political battle between 3 challengers and not a single dime is spent by any of them so they can "be loved"...at the end of the election, one of them is still going to be voted into the office without having spent a dime.
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