Re: looking at the data
AskAsa
4/23/2012 3:30:04 PM
Maybe North Dakota isn't dreamland. Maybe Nebraska isn't either. But if there are jobs there, and someone needs one, then go! It's not a life sentence. It's a stop-gap measure, a chance to gain experience, build a bankroll, get off the couch.
Was America such a great place when people came here in the early 1800s? It was a lot like North Dakota today: tough, but full of opportunities.
Re: looking at the data
AskAsa
4/23/2012 3:22:46 PM
Good question, @driven. I think Scott is right about the potential for plumbers and other tradespeople, especially if the training can be accomplished on the job or in low-cost community colleges.
Re: looking at the data
driven
4/23/2012 3:20:21 PM
"Well, if you don't want to finish college and you still want to make money, you can always become a plumber. In fact hire two laborers after two years and you'll be doing well."
The trades offer a lot of opportunity, and I don't think we're fully examining it -- as students, parents or educators. Why aren't we training people for the needs we have in our society, rather than letting everyone do his own thing -- and then sit on the couch after graduation because we have no need for those jobs?
Re: looking at the data
Tenacious
4/23/2012 3:14:34 PM
If I'm not going somewhere with great weather or great cities, I think North Dakota or Nebraska is pretty much of an even bet.
Don't scoff at Nebraska. The state has been making strides to provide incentives for businesses to Increase student Internships, Attract more Angel Investors, Stimulate construction of spec commercial buildings and Push new technology into the market. More than a lot of states are doing.
No, of course not. Two Midwestern states had the lowest unemployment rates in the nation last month. If you don't like North Dakota -- which has a 3% unemployment rate -- then you can move to Nebraska, which has a 4% unemplyment rate.
@Noreen,
C'mon, so you're saying the only option right now is to move to the Bakken? That's a little extreme!
What's the alternative? Moving back home with your mom and dad after four years at college? How much fun is that? (For anyone, including the parents.)
@Noreen.
True. Just I think the media somewhat glamorizes the Bakken and if you see the working and living conditions they are pretty rough. Yes it's better than being broke, but I think anybody that goes there has to do it with the mindset of "I'm going to work really hard for a few years and save a lot of money but there won't be a lot of fun involved."
My son quit college and he's working as a systems engineer. He learned Perl on the job from a guy who used to teach it at a college and now he's learning Java. He's being paid to learn the things he would have paid to learn in college. Lucky? Maybe. But sometimes you have to explore the options before you spend $100,000.
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