Re: Over reaction?
mInvestor
5/16/2012 1:54:56 AM
I am not that sure Cisco's products are that reliable. Many our customers had bad exeprience with Cisco's routers. And several Cisco's rounters used in our office sometimes gave QA and IT people lots of headache.
On the other hand, Some Chinese companies, like Huawei and ZTE could and have made products cheaper and quite reliable.
So I think Cisco's failiure in Asian markets (if there was a real failure) was probably caused from reasons inside the company.
Re: Over reaction?
yalanand
5/11/2012 5:23:49 AM
At a forward P/E of 9, I think you can definitely qualify it as a value stock.
@Scott, true but I feel Cisco cannot grow rapidly because Asian market has proved to be not as good as it looks, as the Chinese can make cheaper (though less reliable) level 2 and level 3 devices. Moreover there are just not many networking related innovations for the last 10 years.
@Value Hiker
You and a lot of other people , apparently. The stock is getting crushed today.
Actually the trailing P/E is only 13. And when you figure the forward P/E., it's already got two quarters built into it, so I guess all the trading is based on what people think will happen in the 2H of the year.
Re: Over reaction?
ProfR
5/10/2012 2:50:59 PM
Hmmm. Not sure if they over paid for Tandberg. However, the video market is growing fast and Tandberg gave Cisco a leading position here.
As conservative investor, I don't like the idea of forward P/E. If I need to calculate the number, I prefer the TTM P/E. It reflects something happened, not some analysts' predication.
@Value Hiker
Actually the forward P/E is below 9 now and given that their EPS guidance is the same this looks to hold steady or even fall in the coming months.
@ProfR,
Do you see evidence that Cisco is doing well with Tandberg? That is certainly not the common perception, you often hear that they overpaid.
@yalanand
At a forward P/E of 9, I think you can definitely qualify it as a value stock. However Chambers expressed concern about the global economy which the market is paying attention to. Might have a wait a few months while this settles out -- the bottom line is that Cisco is going to move the way the macro economy moves in the next several months and a lot of that has to do with how the European debt crisis is managed.
Re: Over reaction?
ProfR
5/10/2012 9:51:26 AM
I agree that Cisco has shown resiliency and an ability to adapt. An example is that they bought Tandberg and are now seeing growth in the video sector. We might see some more acquisitions ahead to bolster growth.
Re: Over reaction?
tokyogai
5/10/2012 9:33:55 AM
I agree. Their performance was solid. I see the guidance more as being conservative than being pessimistic. Time to consider a buy.
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