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Noreen Seebacher
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Over reaction?
Noreen Seebacher   5/9/2012 9:52:29 PM
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It seems like investors really punished the stock despite a solid earnings report for the current quarter.

Value Hiker
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Re: Over reaction?
Value Hiker   5/10/2012 2:28:16 AM
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If John Chambers is right about Cisco's growth prospect in the next few quarters, the current valuation is too rich.  Investor won't pay a P/E of 15 for a company with zero growth in its main business.

Scott Raynovich
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Re: Over reaction?
Scott Raynovich   5/10/2012 10:22:31 AM
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@Value Hiker

Actually the forward P/E is below 9 now and given that their EPS guidance is the same this looks to hold steady or even fall in the coming months.

Value Hiker
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Re: Over reaction?
Value Hiker   5/10/2012 12:04:35 PM
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As conservative investor, I don't like the idea of forward P/E. If I need to calculate the number, I prefer the TTM P/E. It reflects something happened, not some analysts' predication.

Scott Raynovich
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Re: Over reaction?
Scott Raynovich   5/10/2012 4:13:35 PM
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@Value Hiker

You and a lot of other people , apparently. The stock is getting crushed today.

Actually the trailing P/E is only 13. And when you figure the forward P/E., it's already got two quarters built into it, so I guess all the trading is based on what people think will happen in the 2H of the year.

yalanand
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Re: Over reaction?
yalanand   5/10/2012 7:33:33 AM
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It seems like investors really punished the stock despite a solid earnings report for the current quarter.

@Noreen, I think investors are bearish about IT sector after the Cognizants bad results. I read somewhere that for the first time since the Lehman Brothers crisis, the Cognizant has lowered its forecast for the full year, largely on account of financial services clients in North America.

Dex
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Re: Over reaction?
Dex   5/10/2012 8:01:50 AM
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I still see Cisco as undervalued. For my money, I'm betting on good future prospects, largely from the diversity of its services.

cat tail
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Re: Over reaction?
cat tail   5/10/2012 8:17:16 AM
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Cisco has had its issues, but it has also shown a nice resiliency and ability to adapt. That should serve it well in the long term.

ProfR
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Re: Over reaction?
ProfR   5/10/2012 9:51:26 AM
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I agree that Cisco has shown resiliency and an ability to adapt. An example is that they bought Tandberg and are now seeing growth in the video sector. We might see some more acquisitions ahead to bolster growth.

Scott Raynovich
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Re: Over reaction?
Scott Raynovich   5/10/2012 10:21:30 AM
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@ProfR,

Do you see evidence that Cisco is doing well with Tandberg? That is certainly not the common perception, you often hear that they overpaid.

ProfR
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Re: Over reaction?
ProfR   5/10/2012 2:50:59 PM
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Hmmm. Not sure if they over paid for Tandberg. However, the video market is growing fast and Tandberg gave Cisco a leading position here.

tokyogai
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Re: Over reaction?
tokyogai   5/10/2012 9:33:55 AM
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I agree. Their performance was solid. I see the guidance more as being conservative than being pessimistic. Time to consider a buy.

Scott Raynovich
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Re: Over reaction?
Scott Raynovich   5/10/2012 10:20:38 AM
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@yalanand

At a forward P/E of 9, I think you can definitely qualify it as a value stock. However Chambers expressed concern about the global economy which the market is paying attention to. Might have a wait a few months while this settles out -- the bottom line is that Cisco is going to move the way the macro economy moves in the next several months and a lot of that has to do with how the European debt crisis is managed.

yalanand
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Re: Over reaction?
yalanand   5/11/2012 5:23:49 AM
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At a forward P/E of 9, I think you can definitely qualify it as a value stock.

@Scott, true but I feel Cisco cannot grow rapidly because Asian market has proved to be not as good as it looks, as the Chinese can make cheaper (though less reliable) level 2 and level 3 devices. Moreover there are just not many networking related innovations for the last 10 years.

mInvestor
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Re: Over reaction?
mInvestor   5/16/2012 1:54:56 AM
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I am not that sure Cisco's products are that reliable. Many our customers had bad exeprience with Cisco's routers. And several Cisco's rounters used in our office sometimes gave QA and IT people lots of headache.

On the other hand, Some Chinese companies, like Huawei and ZTE could and have made products cheaper and quite reliable.

So I think Cisco's failiure in Asian markets (if there was a real failure) was probably caused from reasons inside the company.

 

yalanand
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RE : Cisco Foretells Challenges to Global Market
yalanand   5/10/2012 7:28:26 AM
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Not a bad set of numbers from CISCO.  Earlier Cisco took some bold decisions like selling its Flip business which now seems to be helping CISCO to bring down its cost.





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