Re: Uneven recovery
Dex
6/7/2012 7:34:13 AM
Fred, I find it annoying that you can only see the world in terms of red and blue. You make every damn issue a matter of politics. it's tiresome.
Obviously the Obama administration has failed in its attempt to quash the energy industry, as you suggest. Just look at the Bakken or Eagle Ford. And plenty of infrastructure is in progress, Keystone Pipeline aside.
And didn't some of the strongest objections to the XL come from Nebraska's Republican Gov. Dave Heineman?
I watched my grandpap shovel coal into a furnace at an office building when I was a kid.
Coal is terrible option in a country with an excess of natural gas.
Okay @noreen, now we're getting somewhere. So you think energy may help produce Jobs. So why then has this administration done everything it can do to squelch energy production? Keystone Pipeline, drilling in the Gulf, eliminating coal as a source of energy production.
Railroad carloads of coal are down 20% this year. Obama promised to make the use of coal prohibitively expensive and he has done what he promised. Unfortunately he did not manage to replace it with Solyndra before it went bankrupt on taxpayer funds so the net result was less energy and certainly less business for the coal producing states.
And even if I grant you that the only reason the four best states for employment are run by Republicans and have been run by Republicans for decades is because God smiled on them and gave them lots of energy, you still have not addressed the fact that 7 of the worst 11 states are run by Democrats and have been for decades.
Maybe it's just a coincidence, but maybe it has something to do with the way they are governed. I can speak for California since I am a resident, and I know that business is leaving the state in droves. It's a hostile environment.
Or maybe you could just say that all four of those states are big energy states, and energy has been booming. And don't go claiming that's just a Republican thing--Pennsylvania is doing good, too, despite the way its citizens voted in 2008.
While I readily agree that the relationship between unemployment and party affiliation is just one in a large field of relationships, there is clearly a correlation between them.
I had a professor in statistics who said that while statistics do not always prove a relationship, to believe the opposite of what they are telling you is no different that saying you believe in miracles.
The only way you can deny that there is something repetitive going on when you see all four states with very high employment voted Republican and 7 out of 11 states with high unemployment voted Democrat is if you believe in miracles -- the odds are simply too high to disregard.
I don't interpret the maps that way. It looks like some states are doing ok and others are not, and how those states voted in the past presidential election doesn't really define anything.
It depends on a myriad of other factors beyond red or blue.
Well @noreen, if you look at the two maps carefully you will quickly see that most of the 11 states with the highest unemployment have large Democrat majorities, and all 4 states with no problem have the largest Republican majorities. Perhaps there's a connection.
I don't really get your point.
Well @noreen, we may disagree as to which came first the chicken or the egg, but I would say the chicken is the cause of the problem in this case, and Scott Walker is no chicken.
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