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Drivewaygirl
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Re: Government interference
Drivewaygirl   6/5/2012 11:07:11 AM
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I'd love to see everyone eat healthy foods, drink water, exercise regularly and take care of themselves. But that's just a wish or a hope. I can't force people to behave that way, nor can the government, no matter how hard it tries.

cat tail
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Re: Government interference
cat tail   6/5/2012 10:45:16 AM
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One of the principles of lean manufacturing is looking at the big picture. Too bad we don't do that when it comes to legislation and bureaucracy.

Noreen Seebacher
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Re: Government interference
Noreen Seebacher   6/5/2012 9:40:14 AM
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Every ban has unintended consequences. My town is debating a ban on plastic shopping bags.  I understand the environmental issues, but understand this. If I don't have a stash of old plastic garbage bags, then I will have to go to PetSmart and buy a stash of doggie dropping bags -- which are also made of plastic. Or I could scoop up dog messes into paper bags -- as long as I was wearing disposable gloves-- which are also made of plastic.

So we tell the local grocer to forgo the plastic bags -- but then we allow the WSJ to double plastic bag every newspaper it home delivers every day?

Where is the common sense? the common good? where does it end?

Noreen Seebacher
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Re: Government interference
Noreen Seebacher   6/5/2012 9:35:56 AM
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I have never ever purchased a 32-oz drink. And the only times I buy 16 oz ones are when I'm sharing the drink between one or more people. However, I have to say that I resent NYC trying to restrict my ability to buy whatever the heck I want from a merchant who wants to sell it.

What's to stop me from buying a gallon jug of HFCS laden fruit punch and drinking the whole thing in one sitting? (My own sense of propriety aside for the moment.)

PredictableChaos
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Government interference
PredictableChaos   6/4/2012 4:33:09 PM
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Why is HFCS used so much?  It's a cheap alternative to Sugar and patented sugar alternatives.

Why is HFCS so inexpensive?  As TelecomFreq mentions, the chemical process isn't so simple.  Must be that the raw material is very cheap.

Okay, so why is corn so cheap?  I wonder - do subsidies for corn growers have anything to do with reducing the price of corn?

If NYC implements a ban on HFCS drinks larger than 16-oz, they will deserve the nanny-state label.  And they'll have unintended consequences just like we do with our farm subsidies.

PC

icebreaker1975
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Too sweet
icebreaker1975   6/4/2012 3:30:58 PM
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So where does it stop?  First there is a ban on the "supersized" drinks, next they will be telling us that we can't eat certain things...when does this end?  Is High Fructose Corn Syrup that bad?!?

TelecomFreq
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Re: Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade 's comments on Sugar
TelecomFreq   6/4/2012 2:59:09 PM
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More TV truth!

I remember for the movie King Corn they made HFCS at home because none of the HFCS plants would let them in to film the process, It wasnt an easy process and one thing that really stuck out to me was that it involved acid to break the corn down. very "natural" looking!

Noreen Seebacher
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Re: Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade 's comments on Sugar
Noreen Seebacher   6/4/2012 2:50:44 PM
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LOL. Yep, I saw a similar one, except it featured that stereotypical dumb male and his know-it-all girlfriend, who explained how healthy and natural HFCS really was...

TelecomFreq
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Re: Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade 's comments on Sugar
TelecomFreq   6/4/2012 2:39:36 PM
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I saw an ad on TV not that long ago trying to make HFCS sounds like it was good. It was basicly two moms talking about a drink, and one who was supposed to seem like she knew nothing, didnt even know the name of the bad thing, and then the other mom chimed in with something about its all natural and made from corn.

if its on TV it must be true, right? lol

Dex
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Re: Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade 's comments on Sugar
Dex   6/4/2012 2:09:10 PM
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I think for a long time a lot of us thought of "corn syrup" as good stuff. I mean, corn is good for you, right? We were sold a bill of goods that didn't match the reality. And yep. It shows in our waistlines.

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