The real point that should be made @chapAnjou, is that government meddling produces problems that require further meddling to fix them. Corn subsidies have increased the use of the very poison that nanny Bloomberg is attempting to fix.
The corn subsidies have gone to those who had lobbies to grease politicians and now Bloomberg is using the problem to increase his budget through ridiculous fines. It's a vicious cycle with emphasis on the word vicious -- he probably will have to invent more useless jobs to enforce the silly rules.
Prohibition proved nicely that government meddling creates more harm than good in some cases, and you can omit the bold sentence without harming the point.
Re: Good proposal
chapAnjou
6/12/2012 2:52:29 PM
You left out some of my quote there: "I think this pretty much sums up why people need to have decisions made for them in some cases"
Mainly, I was speaking about the consumption of high sugar beverages. I don't want a nanny state, but they're not banning the sale of beverages, they're limiting the size of them - not exactly the same as prohibition.
@chapAnjou "I think this pretty much sums up why people need to have decisions made for them"
Yes, you are correct. So why not ban the use of alcholic beverages, we could call it "Prohibition" and pass an amendment. Oh yeah, we did that already.
Re: Good proposal
chapAnjou
6/12/2012 12:47:47 PM
"Times have changed when the powers that be advocate against the consumption of foods with large amounts of sugar syrup."
It's funny (and not the good kind of funny) to think about how what was once considered normal at one point in our society was eventually determined to be harmful. For example, lead paint...all paint was made with lead and, after years of contaminating homes, it was determined that this is a health risk and must be stopped.
The same thing goes for all these processed foods....it's only a matter of time before the nation continues on this healthy kick and starts making sure that the various food industries are up to snuff.
Look at what McDonalds was serving 20 yrs ago compared to what it's selling today and you see there's an effort being made to get our country out of this rut...
Re: Good proposal
chapAnjou
6/12/2012 12:44:07 PM
"And this is why we have a nation of obese people and people with eating disorders--because too many people rely on instant, convenience and fast food."
@Dex, exactly. I would love to know the % of people eating home cooked meals nowadays - I bet you there's direct evidence showing a decline in home cooked meals coinciding with an increase in the nation's waist size...
Re: Good proposal
chapAnjou
6/12/2012 12:41:41 PM
"People are just lazy. In NYC, you can buy a banana from a food vendor for like 35 cents...but people will walk into fancy food stores instead -- and buy bananas for $1 instead. Why? Because they want a bag,"
I don't really think this has to do with being lazy. Food vendors on the street are kind of a gross concept. Actually, in many cases, I bet you it would be easier (and quicker) to get your fruit from them...but most people are willing to go the extra few blocks for something they know is more likely to be clean.
Re: Good proposal
chapAnjou
6/12/2012 12:29:01 PM
"Just yesterday at BJs Wholesale I watched a 300 pound woman and her 400 pound man debate whether four boxes of mini muffins would get them through breakfast this week."
@Dex, hahahaha! I love that they didn't even appreciate the irony of the situation...
Re: Good proposal
cat tail
6/12/2012 11:23:52 AM
Yes but at least they are eating fruit,
Re: Good proposal
Tenacious
6/12/2012 10:12:28 AM
People are just lazy. In NYC, you can buy a banana from a food vendor for like 35 cents...but people will walk into fancy food stores instead -- and buy bananas for $1 instead. Why? Because they want a bag,
Re: Good proposal
AskAsa
6/12/2012 10:06:31 AM
Instant, convenience and fast food in GIANT portions...
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