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driven
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Zombie investing
driven   6/5/2012 11:32:18 AM
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You made me laugh with the description of brain-dead, emotionless investing. But I wholeheartedly agree. Great tips.

Value Hiker
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Re: Zombie investing
Value Hiker   6/5/2012 1:26:17 PM
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If you belive investor's worst enemy is her/himself, then zombie investing means doing investment without his/her worst enemy. It will be a sure way to make decent return.

ProfR
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Re: Zombie investing
ProfR   6/5/2012 1:38:38 PM
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So maybe most investors should just buy index funds that match the market. Does that really optimize what a non-professional investor can make?

Value Hiker
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Re: Zombie investing
Value Hiker   6/5/2012 1:53:04 PM
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Yes, at least Warren Buffett though so. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEX81lGhMwM

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Re: Zombie investing
Broadway   6/5/2012 3:26:14 PM
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These are excellent rules to invest by. Thanks, Scott. Still, it doesn't make life any easier. I was reading a piece on Kiplinger today about what stocks could be the next Apple, and in the piece, the author claimed that if you invested $20k in Apple stock 10 years ago, you'd be a millionaire today. Made me want to punch my computer and break my keyboard over my knee like Bo Jackson used to do with his baseball bats. It's these kind of stories that make avoiding emotional, get-rich-quick kind of investing hard to resist.

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Re: Zombie investing
Value Hiker   6/5/2012 4:37:02 PM
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"if you invested $20k in Apple stock 10 years ago, you'd be a millionaire today."

You called that a get-rich-quick??? No, it is not, at least according WSJ.  A report on WSJ in 2009 did an interesting research. I do not remember the exact detail, but basically, you have one dollar to start at January 1, and for each trading day in 2009, you bought the stock that will rise most on that day, and sold it at the close. Just ignore the trading expense and assume a tax deferred account, at the end of the year, you would end up with more than a Trillion dollar.

I know people who buy Apple at exact bottoms, unfortunately most of them either bought too fewer shares, or sold too earlier. Assume you really bought Apple at the bottom with $20K, when the stock rise to 200K, will you sell ? how about 400K,  800K, the pressure will build up if you are not a multi-millionaire at the beginning.

The only thing I am sure is that the author did not invest that way. 

 

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WE ARE READY TO FUND YOUR PROJECT
churchill   6/5/2012 8:37:32 PM
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Re: Zombie investing
Scott Raynovich   6/5/2012 8:41:03 PM
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@Broadway @Value Hiker

Yes actually Apple was no get-rich quick scheme, it was included from the beginning in our Index because it met our criteria of reasonable low-PEG investments.

Broadway, I don't know why you wanted to break your keyboard because as VAlue Hiker said, it is extremely hard to do something like that (analytically and emotionally), and as he said movest investors would sell the stock after they were up $100,000.

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Re: WE ARE READY TO FUND YOUR PROJECT
Noreen Seebacher   6/5/2012 10:47:24 PM
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Dear Churchill, Go ahead - send money. Many crates of small bills preferred.

Noreen Seebacher
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Re: Zombie investing
Noreen Seebacher   6/5/2012 11:05:22 PM
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@Scott sometimes we all feel like breaking our keyboards.

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